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2017-03-29 18:51
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
Release id #154887 : Giana Sisters DS

I hate to bring this matter back again every time, but this tune is not to be credited to Fabian del Priore as the sid tune is made by LMan only, by his own admission, it's only a cover (of a cover).
It's not that we credit Harold Faltermeyer as the co author of every axel f cover, for example.
2017-03-29 19:46
bepp

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 263
+1
2017-03-29 20:12
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
AFAIK Markus used Fabian's original samples so that makes it not as much cover as rather C64 port, I believe.
2017-03-30 04:51
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79
What Jammer said. This is much more a port than a cover. Although I had to reprogram the whole thing, it's still based on the original xm.
2017-03-30 05:58
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 284
Only the persons directly involved in the port/cover/remake/remix that created the music should be credited in the SID, at least for the SIDs in the HVSC collection. All other information goes into a STIL entry.

If somebody creates a remix of a Rob Hubbard digi tune and used the same samples, the person who did the remix is only credited, like:

/MUSICIANS/S/Sanden_Peter/BMX_Kidz_Remix.sid
2017-03-30 06:31
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4586
Quote: AFAIK Markus used Fabian's original samples so that makes it not as much cover as rather C64 port, I believe.

With that logic every guy that sampled anything on Amiga should be credited as musician if their samples were used in a module by someone else. The original composition is made by Hülsbeck, but he is not credited, is he? ;) Of course this is LMan's creation, even if he borrowed samples, and made a cover of a cover. Why make it so complicated?
2017-03-30 06:41
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79
Because it is a direct port, not a cover. The musical content, sound design, arrangement is 100% Fabian's, except the ending (the original loops).

Hülsbeck is credited on the screen for his original in small letters only, because Fabian's version is drastically different.

This whole discussion is unnerving really.
2017-03-30 06:42
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79
He was also beta listening all the time and suggesting things, if you absolutely need any direct involvement.
2017-03-30 06:46
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79
Really it's like the discussion back then when I released new .prgs of my songs with the only difference being that I had replaced the boring psid screen with a picture. You guys insisted that it needed a new release instead of just having it as replacement or additional download in the original release. You've made your points, you've had your way but to what result? CSDb has become a bit more messy and nobody really gives a damn.

What I'm trying to say is, rules and standards are of utmost importance, but leave a *little* room for common sense.
2017-03-30 09:56
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
I am using common sense, but seems not that common to everyone.
Having Fabian listening, nodding, waving flags and screaming "GO!GO!GO!" while _you_ were porting it to the C64 is not direct and active involvement and doesn't make him the co-author of the _C64 VERSION_ of the same tune, even if it were 100% identical to the mp3 (or whatever format was in the NDS game) :D
2017-03-30 10:09
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2476
He could be credited for "help" though.
 
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