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2017-07-29 19:55
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
Event id #2621 : BCC Party #12

Good news, inspite of my leaving Berlin (just kidding, that was never a threat to the continuity of the party) and the old location no longer being rented to us (that was the true reason for doubt), the team has found a new place in the same district, so there WILL(!) be a BCC#12 in 2018! \o/

Short info:
free entry, donations welcome
competitions and prizes
breakfast and bbq
free coffee and tea
outdoor space w/o cars

Registration (in a perfect world on our homepage and not only here or on Facebook) is obligatory, this time, to help us planning. Here's the registry form:
http://berlinc64club.de/events/4/bcc-12/
(scroll a little)

We guess, about 40 people with plus 40 people without old erhm own hardware should fit. At the moment we do not expect that we have to close registration due to being overrun, but you never know :)

Place is called "Vereinshaus Goldregen", it's the club house of a Schrebergarten (<- German word for allotment gardens) colony, hence the tag line.

More info will follow in due time, here or on our homepage.

Cheers
Ryk
2017-07-29 20:14
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
\o/
party!!
2017-09-06 08:36
Thunder.Bird

Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 109
I just discovered that "days till party" disfunctions.

It shows the days left until next party in queue, so don't get confused by that.
Of course if you also may want to stop by at http://berlinc64club.de/events/7/vcfb/ you're heartly welcome!

Thanks for reading :)
Thunder.Bird
2017-12-07 14:08
Thunder.Bird

Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 109
Only 77 days till party!

*** Register now as we have to know how many seats and tables are needed ***
Use this link please and/or try to register here or on bacefook: http://berlinc64club.de/events/4/bcc-12/

And please tell all your buddies on lemon64/forum64/reallife64 :)
2018-01-07 21:36
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
just a reminder:

46 days, that's a little less then 7 more weeks :)

So if you've got nothing to do in late Feb and have always wanted to visit Berlin, go and register!

Remote entries welcome as usual via mail to ryker[ÄT]freenet.de till Fri 23rd of Feb, 12:00 CEST high noon.

Cheers
Ryk
2018-02-09 12:41
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
Hey Saufziegen and other party animals!

To give you more than a *bump* reminder or GABBO/GABBO/GABBO, REMOTE-REMOTE-REMOTE, I'm gonna tell you something about the competitions and voting.

Old news: Deadline for mailing remote entries to ryker[ÄT]freenet.de is (as usual) Fri, 12:00 high noon CEST (so about 2 more weeks), live entries (it's enough to have one guy at the party to label it "live") can be delivered to orga desk on disk, USB, SD, whatever till Sat, 18:00 CEST.

Next I'd like to explain how categories are formed, as there's been some irritation in the past. IF(!) we've got more than 2 entries in a subcategory, we normally split them from main or "parent" category.
Example#1: (not very likely) altogether only 6 entries, 2x C64 music, 2x C64 gfx, 1x C64 game --> everything ends in "Mixed"
Example#2: (much more likely) We've got 2x C64 games, 2x other platform releases, 5x C64 gfx, 7x C64 music, 3x One-file demos, 2x Trackmos. --> there'll be
- Mixed (the games and the other platform stuff)
- Gfx
- Music
- Demo(!)
Example#3: 3 trackmos, 3 one-filed demos, 3 BASIC demos, 4 PETSCII gfx, 5 other gfx
--> there might(!) be categories
- Trackmo
- Basic Demo
- One-filed Demo
- C64 Gfx
- PETSCII Gfx

And some info for music competitors but also the _AUDIENCE_!
There _is_ _NO_ 3:00 limit at BCC parties.
Never was. Never will be - as far as I'm concerned.

You might find that strange or funny, that's alright, but don't clap your hands or applaud at 3:00 playtime, this might have been fun once, but I kindly ask you to show respect to the composers who did longer tunes, especially as there ain't no rule forbidding them to. The concerns I've heard (but what if 6 guys hand in a 20:00 tune) are nonsense. If it's a 20:00 piece in the quality of Knuckles Busters by Rob Hubbard, it will be played for 20 minutes, so what!? If it's 20 min only randomly created off key beeep-buzzz-ear torture, I'm gonna know before compo start (you know, I check the entries before compo show), and will turn them off early enough or recommend a cigarrete break, but it has never happened yet and probably never will :)

Voting:
We plan to have an internal Party Network, so that people can vote with their netbooks or smartphones or at a couple of machines we are planning to provide. No idea if this works out, but if it does, we might know the results already Sat night instead of me hanging on the phone and listening to Hoeppie counting votesheets at his breakfast table again ;)

Waiting eagerly for your remote entries!
Looking 4wd to party with you again,
Cheers
Ryk

PS: Over the whole 3 days we're expecting around 100 people again (if you count everyone who's there at different times), maybe some 75 on Sat night at the compo
2018-02-10 17:51
Ninja

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 404
I couldn't find a time table. When do doors open?
2018-02-10 23:16
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
Yeah, time table is something we're still working on as there might be live acts to reserve time for.

You can count on some of us being there around 15:00, as we're going to get the keys about an hour before.

Cheers
Ryk

PS: normally official opening "speech" is around prime time (20:00) but it's also normal that a lot of people are already unpacking hardware late afternoon
2018-02-12 10:42
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
Some orga news about Friday as people keep asking for timetable

noon+x: orga gets keys and builds up party place (tables, sound, light, beamer and whatnot)
15:00 (!) doors open for guests -> people unpack stuff and make themselves at home, meet and greet...
20:00 official opening ceremony: few words, some demos...
21:00 surprise act(s)
23:00 booze the night away, maybe with some terror entertainment by SID Jockeys Thunder and Ryk

I'll talk to Thunder on the telephone today and will leak more info later
2018-02-12 23:24
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
OK here's what I've got for you after communicating with Hoeppie and Thunder again:

Fri
12:00 high noon remote entry deadline... in case of emergency you may(!) submit later but I can't guarantee anything as I'm not gonna be on an 8 bit party to idle around on the Internet and check my emails 24-7 you know...
15:00 official door opening (if you arrive an hour earlier or sth and have nothing else to do, you can help building up), find some cosy corner, unpack your stuff, meet people, have some beer maybe
18:00 BYOBAMBBQ - bring your own beer and meat BBQ, so at 6pm there'll be some grill hot enough to forge iron, but if you wanna use it, buy some sausages or meat or whatever, we'll tell you where to find supermarkets
20:00 official party beginning, hopefully short welcome speech by orga team
21:00 surprise...

Sat
08:00-10:00 1st breakfast - organized by whosoever is sober at that unchristian time, so definetely not me
between 09 and 14:00 TheRyk will show up with some more buns and breakfast, other guys will show you around in Berlin-Neukölln (Whiskey-Hypermarket, food stores, booze stores (Spätkauf), fast food temples, whatnot
or you let yourself be photographed and digitized on a real C64 like on German fares in the 80s, a 9 needle printer 320x200 selfy :)
afternoon: demos, SIDs, surprise... ;)
18:00 deadline for live entries
also grill is hot again for BYOBAMBBQ or you try a local kebap, no vegetarian Chili this year, sorry, new location means, we've got no kitchen anymore
20:00 Compo Show & Voting (supposed to be accessible via any WiFi gadget like smartphone, tablet, netbook, apple toys whatever)
23:00 (???) Surprise

Sun
08:00-10:00 Breakfast (not my time, but no further comment)
12:00 (???) Prize Giving Ceremony
afternoon goodbye and cleaning the place

General Info
- Once more, there is _NO_ENTRANCE_FEE_ but we hope you donate to help paying rent for our stash and organizing parties. Free earplugs, free coffee around the clock
- If you didn't book a hotel, bringing a sleeping bag etc and sleeping in the party room is allowed, but don't complain about party or snoring noise, we've got 100 pairs of earplugs for free for you :)
- It is allowed to bring own booze to the place
- There's a bar where you _CAN_ buy drinks, less than 3€ for a continental pint (0,5 l) and less than 2€ for a small pint, soft drinks (don't ask me, but moderate price I guess). You can also smoke there.
- Smoking is not allowed in the main party room. Remember, some people want to sleep there, also some of us are parents and bring over their kids at daytime. So please go to the bar or outside for a smoke and meet cool guys like myself there :)
- There is a second bar in the party room where you get free coffee, tea and other needful things :)
- Breakfast is also free (but as mentioned, I'm more the guy to take care of what German farmers name 2nd breakfast), so are BBQ sauces, bread and maybe some more. :)

Hope that helps or even motivates some more guys to attend!

Cheers

Ryk

PS: Trust us, we know what we're doing and keep getting better, i.e. our timetables have become less "flexible" in the past years, but you never know what happens, so be patient if the time table might get into conflict with reality, some delay might happen
2018-02-13 12:10
nomistake

Registered: Apr 2011
Posts: 29
Hey BCC fans and friends!

i was wondering if someone could give me a ride from braunschweig (A2) to the party in berlin - ofcourse i pay for some of the gas! i'd love to bring my c64 with me but i'd be happy to just have a seat in the car... please let me know and write a PM if it's possible.

thank you very much!
2018-02-14 13:08
Dr.j

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 276
there is live stream from the party ? (not for me..i am coming) for a friend who ask me .
2018-02-14 22:17
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
@how to get their issues/car pool: please also consider posting requests on forum64.de for being picked up somewhere in Germany

@DrJ/live stream: For you would have been a little strange indeed if you attend in persona :D Just kidding, seriously stream is unlikely/rather not. After the party there's gonna be a lot of picture and video footage again, but so far we've got enough to care for real party, no one in orga really cares for sofa sceners as of yet...
2018-02-15 00:48
Compyx

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631
Live stream or it didn't happen
2018-02-15 13:58
Dr.j

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 276
@thyRyk : NP!! thanks for the replay.
2018-02-22 11:39
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
Hey guys,

almost on my way to the party, we've got a request. There's gonna be other 8 bit systems release(s) again. We've got pretty much all 8 bit C= computers and quite a lot hankypanky stuff (C64, C128, C16, DTV, SCPU) but we still have no C16 joysticks in our stash.

So it would be great if someone can help us out again either with C16 joy(s) or adapter(s).

In case you wanna release non C= 8 bit stuff (Atari, Amstrad, What-Not), please bring necessary hardware yourself just in case and inform orga asap

Thx a lot,
don't forget the deadline for remote entries is Fri 12:00 CEST high noon, for live entries (author or group member must deliver at party) 36 hours later.


Cheerio
Ryk
2018-02-22 13:27
c0zmo

Registered: Aug 2015
Posts: 10
Quoting TheRyk
don't forget the deadline for remote entries is Fri 12:00 CEST high noon, for live entries (author or group member must deliver at party) 36 hours later.


Amazing, so I can hand you my release AFTER the compos actually started? ;)
2018-02-22 13:53
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
Time Travel makes it possible :P

OK Sat, 18:00 minus Fri 12:00 is obviously 30 hours, not 36, stupid me ^^
2018-02-22 19:25
Luca

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178
Quote: Hey guys,

almost on my way to the party, we've got a request. There's gonna be other 8 bit systems release(s) again. We've got pretty much all 8 bit C= computers and quite a lot hankypanky stuff (C64, C128, C16, DTV, SCPU) but we still have no C16 joysticks in our stash.

So it would be great if someone can help us out again either with C16 joy(s) or adapter(s).

In case you wanna release non C= 8 bit stuff (Atari, Amstrad, What-Not), please bring necessary hardware yourself just in case and inform orga asap

Thx a lot,
don't forget the deadline for remote entries is Fri 12:00 CEST high noon, for live entries (author or group member must deliver at party) 36 hours later.


Cheerio
Ryk


Omg hope that nobody wanna play our new Plus/4 game with a terrible 1341! Take a common converter cable with you, instead! :D
2018-02-23 16:41
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
Thanks 2 chagizz, helmutx and oldskool peter the c16 joy port problem is solved :)
2018-02-25 18:55
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
Thanks to all guests and competitors it was a wonderful party once more!

All is uploaded except for 3 trackmos, 1 of which I am not allowed to up and 2 of which I have to transfer from disk to image at home (or wait till some one else does)

Cheers
Ryk

PS: Commercial releases are not upped here :) C16 fans know where to find Bauknecht's great game, hopefully!
2018-02-25 19:34
Luca

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178
Thank you TheRyk, so many hi-quality releases and some truly unexpected results :D
Just to point out: the Plus/4 game is not yet a commercial release (this is the freeware version, the commercial one will follow...) and hasn't been released under the Bauknecht label.

Seeya next year!
2018-02-25 19:59
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
for those interested
http://plus4world.powweb.com/software/Pets_Rescue
2018-02-25 20:14
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
Pets Rescue looks like a cool game!
I still wonder was this site doesn't collect all Commodore 8bit machines stuff: vic20, c64, c16, c128, +4, etc. Alright, it's named "the *C-64* Scene Db", but you can find C128 demos here, so...?
2018-02-25 20:32
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
c128 contains also a c64.
2018-02-25 20:36
Moderators

Registered: Nov 2010
Posts: 31
Nothing hides from CSDb

Psychedelic Delicacy by Delysid
2018-02-25 20:41
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
ok, but c128 only demos listed here don't run on my stock c64. same for DTV. so: will you accept C64 mini soon?
2018-02-25 20:48
Moderators

Registered: Nov 2010
Posts: 31
no

and offtopic, open a thread about it
2018-02-25 23:16
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
Quoting Luca
... so many hi-quality releases and some truly unexpected results :D
The orga was as puzzled about certain results as everyone else and looked for explanations all day. Meanwhile, Hoeppie and me double-checked again what might have gone wrong.

We can assure you now there was no bug in the voting system script. But only 48 voters clicked the "SEND" button although 10 or 15 more were connected. More people would of course mean less weight of single strange votes. We also don't think that results are totally uspide down. But single voters seem to have been confused and voted upside down. We should have explained in greater detail or make it clearer/foolproof, probably, pressure due to delay might also be a reason for confusion and hurried explanation. If there is a next BCC (give us some time to recover, then we will talk about this year's problems and the future), improving voting will have high priority, promised.

Bottom line: Voters are no less to blame than artists who rank higher than they should. If anyone is to blame, it's us, the orga. We feel very bad about that as prize giving should be a happy ending of a great party and not the reason for bad mood. Please try to remember the fun nights and not only the weird results.

Sorry!
Hoeppie and Ryk
2018-02-26 11:57
Dr.Science

Registered: Oct 2011
Posts: 39
Please upload all C64 releases from the party. There is no reason not to do so. The stuff was shown to a wide audience at the party. If someone wants to polish his stuff he can still do and release it later as 101% or whatever.
But the actual shown stuffs should be uploaded here by the orga team (if someone wants it’s release marked as party version that is fine) as they are.
2018-02-26 12:03
nomistake

Registered: Apr 2011
Posts: 29
i took some pictures at the party. if anyone wants to have the link to the rar archive, send me a pm. it will be available for seven days only.
2018-02-26 16:35
Ninja

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 404
There was no rule about uploading compo stuff, so I asked, and we agreed that they won't upload it and I take the complaints.

I will upload both versions, compo and final (=international). But the "German only" version doesn't make make much sense to me for an international audience like CSDb.

Your mileage may vary.
2018-02-26 17:58
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
Quote:
1 of which I am not allowed to up

wat
2018-02-26 19:03
Dr.Science

Registered: Oct 2011
Posts: 39
Hey Ninja, I didn't want to complain - and for sure not about you! But what you say sounds totally different from the post above "I am not allowed to upload" ! I do understand your point, and maybe TheRyk should have written it that way (but he was tired after the party like all of us, so no worries Ryk :-) )
Anyway - and that is my personal oppinion - I think what has been released at compo should be released here in the compo entry. Right away, not somewhere in the future. No matter if it is 100% or not, no matter if there will follow another (english or whatever) version. Again, that is just my point of view.
2018-02-26 20:46
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
1996 wants its weird ideas back =)
2018-02-27 00:49
Tim
Account closed

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 467
Quote: There was no rule about uploading compo stuff, so I asked, and we agreed that they won't upload it and I take the complaints.

I will upload both versions, compo and final (=international). But the "German only" version doesn't make make much sense to me for an international audience like CSDb.

Your mileage may vary.


lol apply your "German only" rule elsewhere and remove about 75-85% of csdb give or take a few.

just upload everything and feed the data monsters
2018-02-27 09:56
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
Thx 2 Ninja 4 getting the missing entry mystery clearer :)

Of course it's quite normal to up everything here, but there is no law forcing competitor or orga to do so, otherwise jail me and put me in one cell with Ninja ;)

Seriously: Some patience does not hurt that much, guys
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