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2017-09-17 16:38
No-XS

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 78
Release id #158909 : Quad Core 100%

On 17th of september the 100% version is posted. I am sure there was a party-release last week, with a bunch of comments. That is now deleted?

Wasn't this site about preservation of all?
2017-09-17 16:48
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
It was changed to release type "Related Release" for some reason - prolly because a real binary doesn't exist or simply is not provided, only a recording - and CSDb normal mode view doesn't include this type of release. One can customize CSDb view mode in user settings, check Custom types to everything and then set Custom mode, it will pop up in searches.
Quad Core
2017-09-17 17:04
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
This also brings up a question of different treatment for that entry and Arise's Pro Memoria 3 entry, which was deleted because the demo only exists as a video
Pro Memoria 3 (96%)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DNS7jlyfK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=077v1VOvyS4
2017-09-17 18:08
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2476
IMHO the original release should be kept (w/o download) to document the party version. This has happened before, with pre-releases for party compos, which were not spread as binaries.
For that reason, the Pro Memoria 3 should be restored as well, even if there is no download available.
2017-09-17 18:26
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11090
but it IS being kept - only the release type was (quite correctly so) changed. the "party version" was a video - as explained by the creator in the comments. and obviously a video isnt "c64 demo" :)
2017-09-17 18:47
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2476
But a video of a C64 demo...?
Or a party version that was not released as binary should be re-labeled as well then? Because it would be just a "memoy of the spectators", which isn't a C64 demo either. :)
2017-09-17 21:58
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11090
"c64 demo" applies to actual c64 demos, not videos of them, not pictures of them. its that simple.
2017-09-17 22:14
Copyfault

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 466
But shouldn't Pro Memoria 3 be also reactivated as an entry, e.g. as "C64 Misc."? I remember they released a video cap of the demo later togehter with some kind of Arise DVD-collection...
2017-09-18 08:20
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
copyfault, the capture is in the YT links I already linked above =) The one I upped got resized by YT, the one upped by Zer0-X is original DVD resolution.
2017-09-19 20:46
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2476
Quoting Groepaz
"c64 demo" applies to actual c64 demos, not videos of them, not pictures of them. its that simple.


No it's not I am afraid. As I wrote, there have been quite a number of demos shown at parties, but not released as binaries until later (or not at all). That has nothing to do with whatever further info, be it videos, pictures or whatever, is posted together with the release entry. And that does not turn them into whatever else.
It could be argued that the download here is reserved for binaries ony, but then the solution is to put the link to the video into comments, and not change the release type.
At least that's what I think.
2017-09-19 20:56
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11090
but the party release *WAS A VIDEO*
2017-09-19 21:24
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4575
What Groepaz said. There was no finished 12 channel music made, so Singular decided to make a video and hand that in to the wild compo, which is ok I guess. But no binary was ever handed in or shown, or released. What was released was a video file.
2017-09-20 11:14
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 501
You guys decide whatever with Quad Core, and then let me know if Pro Memoria 3 (not 96% but the real thing, being it a wild demo I guess) should be reinstated here or not ;)
2017-09-20 13:42
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11090
sure, just upload the d64. other than that, the entry for the demo doesnt exist, just like the demo :)
2017-09-20 19:49
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 511
DTW64! demos that werent.
2017-09-22 19:12
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 501
One thing, shouldn't this be 'C64 Misc', not 'C64 Demo'?
4 projectors is not 'normal' C64 setup, right?...
2017-09-24 07:49
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2476
Zip added including the original binaries: Quad Core
2017-09-24 13:21
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
Technically, the projectors are not even required, the 4 disksides can run independently and one can stack 2x2 monitors to watch the 4 demos =)
It was already done with Double
2017-09-24 21:34
Copyfault

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 466
In Dual Head they did syncing via a specific userport connection. I think this solution should also work here for syncing four C64s.
Is there any information why this kind of automatic syncing was not done?
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