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2017-09-29 15:46
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 258
Event id #2636 : Crack Intro Music Competition 2017

After the geat success in 2013, the time has come for another Crack Intro Music Competition!

Several people have asked for it and finally it happens.

This time I have a skilled co-organizer with Jammer.

Competition runs from September 29, 2017, until October 29, 2017. So you have a full month to deliver your creations.

Please use this thread for questions, discussion and everything else concerning this competition.

THE RULES (same as in 2013, worked very well):
- max. playtime 1:00 min. (PAL playing speed), then repeat or fade.
- max. size: $1000 bytes (preferably located in memory at $1000-$2000)
- single speed only
- no SID model preference (should sound good on all SID models)
- must be handed in as executable format .sid or .prg (might be embedded in .t64 or .d64)
- no graphics or even intro-like presentation is allowed to be included.
- Productions using the music might be released after the voting deadline. The voting should be focused on the music itself.
- the participating musics may not have been released or used in a public production before.
- multiple entries per musician allowed.

Deadline for entry submission is October 29, 2017 at 23:59:59 (11:59:59 pm).
Voting closes one week later at November 6, 2017 at 23:59:59 (11:59:59 pm).
Voting platform is CSDb (with all disadvantages it may have), therefore entries have to be posted here.
Entries will be ranked by weighted average of CSDb votes. Entries with the same weighted average are ranked by their percentages of 10s, 9s, etc.

No prices to win, just the fame. May the best creation win!
2017-09-29 23:22
Scarzix

Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 134
I think the 1:00 minute is just too little for small tunes unless you want a lot of tiny loops.

1:10-20 would fit better with most speeds and sequences, at least for my own small intro tunes.
2017-09-29 23:34
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8318
also a crack intro tune must loop, wtf fade...
2017-09-29 23:40
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 695
Quoting Scarzix
I think the 1:00 minute is just too little for small tunes unless you want a lot of tiny loops.

1:10-20 would fit better with most speeds and sequences, at least for my own small intro tunes.


Over 80 tunes complied miraculously to that rule in 2013 :P It's a good exercise in being compact and to the point ;) You realize how exemplary crack tune works - most memorable theme is right at the start and later you just pour water. So... pour a little less of that water from your hefty jug, sir :D You're obviously allowed to make 2 subtunes - #1 under 1 minute and #2 being full length theme of your dreams (both have to fit in 4k, though).



Quoting Groepaz
also a crack intro tune must loop, wtf fade...


Actually, you're right about that ;) I don't remember any entry from 2013 that didn't loop as a matter of fact.
2017-09-29 23:55
Scarzix

Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 134
I don't see the point of having length restrictions. The bytes is totally understandable if it should within a crack intro. But the length limitation doesn't make sense to me and I highly doubt that people thought about length of a tune back then (in the 80's when cracks were actually important)
2017-09-30 00:15
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 695
Cracking the Old Way that's more or less how you stick to the compo rules :)
2017-09-30 03:23
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 695
It's ridiculous but I have to add that rule:

- tune that covers someone else's composition, cannot be a procedural conversion of any kind - put some effort into process FFS

Case study here:
Poop Nukem 3D
2017-09-30 11:56
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 424
Cool that you do this compo.
Not gonna take part, but probably rather leave this to real musicians.
Not so happy about 1:00 limit, i.e. what Scarzix sez.
2017-09-30 12:12
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 577
Really great you guys are organizing another Crack Intro Music competition! Awesome.

I am struggling with this rule, tho:

- no SID model preference (should sound good on all SID models)

May I ask what the point is?

First of all most of the classic crack intro tunes from back in the days sound like shit on a 8580, so it's not a way to keep things "real" - heavy differences have always been there.

Also, I don't see a proper scientific, ahem, way to judge whether a tune complies to that rule or not. An 8580 tune that sounds muffled on the old chip can be excused by the author's soft spot for lo-fi glitch, e.g. I am exaggerating here, obviously, but I hope you get my drift. Who judges what's "good" and what's not? Oh, yeah, the organizers, sure - but how can a participant possibly know what's in the realm of acceptable according to the organizer's taste? It's a very vague, nebulous rule one could easily do without imho.

That being said, I am looking forward to an ass kicking compo! Thanks, guys!
2017-09-30 13:44
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 695
Sascha, I'm more than sure your great experience will allow you to tell tune sounding lofi on 6581 from the broken one ;) Same for the other way round - 6581 tune sounding thin on new one is rather common and acceptable but 6581 bassline using $00 cutoff, which in most cases is virtually inaudible on 8580, is not that nice.
2017-09-30 15:23
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 577
What about switching filtertypes? Produces clicks on the old fella, but does that automatically result in a disqualification? Where to draw the line?
 
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