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2017-09-29 13:46
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 478
Event id #2636 : Crack Intro Music Competition 2017

After the geat success in 2013, the time has come for another Crack Intro Music Competition!

Several people have asked for it and finally it happens.

This time I have a skilled co-organizer with Jammer.

Competition runs from September 29, 2017, until October 29, 2017. So you have a full month to deliver your creations.

Please use this thread for questions, discussion and everything else concerning this competition.

THE RULES (same as in 2013, worked very well):
- max. playtime 1:00 min. (PAL playing speed), then repeat or fade.
- max. size: $1000 bytes (preferably located in memory at $1000-$2000)
- single speed only
- no SID model preference (should sound good on all SID models)
- must be handed in as executable format .sid or .prg (might be embedded in .t64 or .d64)
- no graphics or even intro-like presentation is allowed to be included.
- Productions using the music might be released after the voting deadline. The voting should be focused on the music itself.
- the participating musics may not have been released or used in a public production before.
- multiple entries per musician allowed.

Deadline for entry submission is October 29, 2017 at 23:59:59 (11:59:59 pm).
Voting closes one week later at November 6, 2017 at 23:59:59 (11:59:59 pm).
Voting platform is CSDb (with all disadvantages it may have), therefore entries have to be posted here.
Entries will be ranked by weighted average of CSDb votes. Entries with the same weighted average are ranked by their percentages of 10s, 9s, etc.

No prices to win, just the fame. May the best creation win!
 
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2017-10-02 21:46
Scarzix

Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 143
Feel free to remove my entries if I violate the restrictions too much. I use speed 02 (aka 3 frames) and the sequence lengths gives me that time. It's not "on purpose" to be against the limitations, but thats what 50fps at speed 02 gives me ... alternatively, I have to make them with CIA timers and then they probably wont fit any crack intro... :-/

Besides that, they are smaller than the max size in bytes and works on both SIDs :-)
2017-10-02 21:51
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Sometimes it's about compromises in composition to meet the requirements - phrase played once not twice etc. No, I don't really want to disqualify decent stuff, especially it's on the verge ;)

Ok, official compromise is that we will turn a blind eye for 2 seconds overtime as it helps sometimes with maintaining regular structure, looping etc. But cross that and scissors go straight for your dicks :D
2017-10-02 22:09
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 478
We agreed to have a tolerance of max. 2 seconds, but that's all. Please do not probe this limit too hard.
2017-10-02 22:27
Scarzix

Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 143
\o/ !!!
2017-10-03 18:08
Mekong

Registered: Mar 2013
Posts: 6
Have to agree with what other guys said, the only constraint in such a compo should be filesize. That's how I've always picked tunes for use in my releases. If one is skilled enough to cram in a solo that shows up after 2 minutes, the better. Loop/fade should not be a demand either, sometimes you may want the intro to hit and run. It sure is cool that in 2013 people complied with these rules, but some of the most legendary introtunes that have actually been used by crackers, from eg. Hubbard or Laxity, wouldn't have qualified here, which is silly.
2017-10-03 18:48
DKT

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 96
IMO there is no (should not be) tech difference between "Crack Intro Music" or "Any other Music", just taste/mood matters ;)
For a good music I will spend additional bytes in intro and try to find space for it in mem no matter what. "Intro music" idea without any restrictions should give enough info "how it should look like for me".
2017-10-03 19:07
DKT

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 96
And why "- single speed only" !? /o\
2017-10-03 19:26
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 478
Rules are set for this compo. Any discussion may influence upcoming compos, but not the running one.

At least european cracking groups always tried to keep their cracks as short as possible. That's why the size of the intro also mattered and they tried to make it cool but short as well. There are lots of small intromusics far below the limit of this compo.

Single speed: Usually crack intros do hot have rastertime to waste therefore use single speed music.

Good sounding on both SID models is a challenge for the composers, accept it or leave it. Some demos have dedicated music for both SID models but there is no space for this in a tiny little intro.
2017-10-04 17:12
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619
Submitted my first entry 'RasterTime'. Made in Cheesecutter V2.8, and hopefully it should fit to the music compo rules :)

Short 'n sweet. I hope :)
2017-10-04 21:20
Magnar

Registered: Aug 2009
Posts: 60
- no graphics or even intro-like presentation is allowed to be included.

This is a silly rule! Nobody obeys it anyway.

Mermaid is animating text from her musicplayer on the screen like a intro-like presentation. Jammer is using graphical font to make his text look better, not using c64 font. People are using PSID64 with flashing color lines in a intro-like presentation...

And what the heck, according the rules it should be blank/black screens from everyone?!?!??!

Please take this rule away.
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