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2017-10-15 17:21
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
Event id #2643 : Plain PETSCII Graphics Competition 2017

question for the organizers:
in wild petscii compo you say it's allowed to use ECM. but with ECM only the first 64 chars are useable, so basically only letters and numbers. that sux.
so is it possible to pick up any chars you like from the CBM font and copy them into a new charset in the first 64 positions? or that's against all the rules on Earth?
 
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2017-10-20 12:15
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
Modfying background does not change look of characters/tiles.
Let me assure everyone I'm totally as enthusiastic about Zmasher's proof of concept as everyone else.
But what's so bad about winning WiLD compo instead of plain? :P
2017-10-20 14:20
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
A wild PETSCII appeared!
2017-10-20 14:57
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933
Quote: Imho Smasher's logo is as pure as hires PETSCII using nonzero $d021 and should be treated equally with the rest, being inside the compo. Moreover it's great proof of concept and looks cool. What's the big difference between modifying $d021, $d022 and $d023? Charset is unchanged ;)

Plain PETSCII in ECM mode should get teh same treatment. Let's positively discriminate all modes, then.
2017-10-20 16:15
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Quoting TheRyk
Modfying background does not change look of characters/tiles.


Switching to MC does not modify charset, only reads it different - looks shouldn't matter at all. Imho not quite an argument ;)
2017-10-20 18:31
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989
Quote: Quoting TheRyk
Modfying background does not change look of characters/tiles.


Switching to MC does not modify charset, only reads it different - looks shouldn't matter at all. Imho not quite an argument ;)


Like PETSCII-fli?
2017-10-20 19:02
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
Quoting JackAsser
Like PETSCII-fli?
Brings to mind the original PET-FLI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktUguF1TnJk - almost indistinguishable from actual bitmap graphics. Almost. :)
2017-10-20 19:14
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
thats a nice trick to achieve bitmap on pet :)
2017-10-21 12:19
Marvin
Account closed

Registered: Oct 2003
Posts: 8
Quote: Like PETSCII-fli?

I've actually been working on a PETSCFLII for a couple of days now... (:
It's a fun format with all the drawbacks of PETSCII and FLI combined.
2017-10-21 13:06
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
Quote: Plain PETSCII in ECM mode should get teh same treatment. Let's positively discriminate all modes, then.

quoting ze rules
Quote:

a) Plain PETSCII (= main competition C64 Graphics)
"Plain" in my definition means an executable .PRG file displaying 1000 bytes screen RAM using CBM Character-ROM font and 1000
nibbles color RAM, nothing else, no ECM, no sprites, no interlace effects, no splits, no animation, no scrolling, no open borders,
no hankypanky of any sort. ...

b) WILD PETSCII (= side competition C64 Wild):
Anthing using the C64 Character ROM (<- only rule here) that violates any of the rules above,
so you can use border effects, sprites, ECM, do an animation of several frames, scrolling... or whatever you like :)

ECM's explicitly in WiLD, to me it does not make sense to treat MC differently, it's sort of hankypanky, so it's WiLD ;)
2017-10-21 16:28
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
So rules should explicitly exclude $d020/$d021 as well because it violates file scheme ;)
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