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2017-10-15 17:21
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
Event id #2643 : Plain PETSCII Graphics Competition 2017

question for the organizers:
in wild petscii compo you say it's allowed to use ECM. but with ECM only the first 64 chars are useable, so basically only letters and numbers. that sux.
so is it possible to pick up any chars you like from the CBM font and copy them into a new charset in the first 64 positions? or that's against all the rules on Earth?
 
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2017-10-20 16:15
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Quoting TheRyk
Modfying background does not change look of characters/tiles.


Switching to MC does not modify charset, only reads it different - looks shouldn't matter at all. Imho not quite an argument ;)
2017-10-20 18:31
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989
Quote: Quoting TheRyk
Modfying background does not change look of characters/tiles.


Switching to MC does not modify charset, only reads it different - looks shouldn't matter at all. Imho not quite an argument ;)


Like PETSCII-fli?
2017-10-20 19:02
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
Quoting JackAsser
Like PETSCII-fli?
Brings to mind the original PET-FLI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktUguF1TnJk - almost indistinguishable from actual bitmap graphics. Almost. :)
2017-10-20 19:14
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
thats a nice trick to achieve bitmap on pet :)
2017-10-21 12:19
Marvin
Account closed

Registered: Oct 2003
Posts: 8
Quote: Like PETSCII-fli?

I've actually been working on a PETSCFLII for a couple of days now... (:
It's a fun format with all the drawbacks of PETSCII and FLI combined.
2017-10-21 13:06
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2066
Quote: Plain PETSCII in ECM mode should get teh same treatment. Let's positively discriminate all modes, then.

quoting ze rules
Quote:

a) Plain PETSCII (= main competition C64 Graphics)
"Plain" in my definition means an executable .PRG file displaying 1000 bytes screen RAM using CBM Character-ROM font and 1000
nibbles color RAM, nothing else, no ECM, no sprites, no interlace effects, no splits, no animation, no scrolling, no open borders,
no hankypanky of any sort. ...

b) WILD PETSCII (= side competition C64 Wild):
Anthing using the C64 Character ROM (<- only rule here) that violates any of the rules above,
so you can use border effects, sprites, ECM, do an animation of several frames, scrolling... or whatever you like :)

ECM's explicitly in WiLD, to me it does not make sense to treat MC differently, it's sort of hankypanky, so it's WiLD ;)
2017-10-21 16:28
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
So rules should explicitly exclude $d020/$d021 as well because it violates file scheme ;)
2017-10-21 18:44
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2066
maybe they should, but they do quite the opposite :P

Quote:
Background and screen color ($d020/$d021) can be picked by competitors, black is beautiful, though

So black is recommended, nothing more, nothing less.
No one said it's a BBS gfx compo.
However, we've had great art picking other values, e.g. $0C, for $d021 last time.

Perhaps we should have another philosophical debate before there's any 20?? compo. ;)

I see your points and read any sort of suggestion/criticism with interest, but this time, I feel it's better to defend the rules as they were set for the remaining 48+something hours.
2017-10-21 20:08
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
yeah, let's stop chatting about the rules. if something must be changed/adjusted it will be in next petscii compo, not this one.
I'm feeling somehow guilty: I cracked Jammer's music compo with my midi tune, and I caused some troubles in ZeRyk's petscii one. if someone is thinking about organizing a new CSDb compo, well... good luck! :)
2017-10-22 12:57
chancer

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 342
have 2 pics done, but using C64 ASCII Art Editor
c64 ascii art editor (pc) and there isn't really a straight forward export function. e.g. I tried putting loading the file into a seq editor.

both are made in layers, I could submit and upload the c64 file later I guess.

anyone else use this editor ? TIA
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