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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289 |
Event id #2670 : $11 Music Compo
Samar crew is proud and happy to announce brand new '$11 Music Compo'. Figure out how much you can do with your hands tied 😉 It's all about sheer fun!
Compo rules:
- only triangle wave, no wave or testbit allowed
- no ringmod or sync
- single/multispeed allowed
- no digis (thcm digis use only $11, $01 and $09 but... no)
- 1SID only
- min. 2 minutes playtime
- any number of tunes per musician
- tunes can be submitted till the end of 02.03
- please supply executable first and then sid, otherwise CSDb mods will skin you alive xD
- other necessary rules might be added later on
Voting:
- there's one week after compo deadline to vote
- CSDb is voting platform
Reward:
- fame and glory
- 10 best voted tunes will be compiled into bandcamp release with gorgeous cover art by Isildur
Have fun and use forum for questions and comments! |
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LMan
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79 |
At Remix64 I've solved it like this:
- You can vote anonymously
- Adding a small comment aka "shout" will publish the vote. The vote's weight will be double
- Adding a full review will make the vote count triple
Additionally, the average is weighted, meaning single outlying votes have lesser weight, discouraging tactical voting in either direction.
For the yearly Remixer of the Year award, a simple collection of nominations will determine the winner, for the manipulation of votes in the voting system would still be too tempting.
Anyway for future CSDb compos, a rule could be that only public votes are counted for the result. Would solve a lot of problems, and wouldn't need any extra coding or external voting mechanisms. |
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LMan
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79 |
More details:
http://www.remix64.com/articles/voting-system.html |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11100 |
i dont get that fetish with public voting :) it will only reduce the number of votes even more (making the result even less representative) and result in even more back petting votes.
also who cares. if you do it for the votes, you shouldnt be doing it perhaps. |
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LMan
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79 |
I agree with you, anonymous voting is a basic democratic principle.
However: if you take part in a competition, you will probably hope to score a good place. And you should expect a fair game. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11100 |
the fairness that is involved is that everyone can cast his vote. and that everyone is allowed to vote whatever the fuck he wants to vote. since there are hardly any objective criteria to rank art, its all highly subjective and matters on taste. and yes, the one who brings most friends to the voting has an advantage. that problem is there, always. the only way to remove it is to ditch this type of voting alltogether and involve a jury (i very much would like to see this back at X...). |
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LMan
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79 |
Grumpy as ever 😂 |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132 |
If you really want to know there are people self voting 10 and placing low votes on all other entries, even if they declare in comment they liked it. Not counting self-group upvotes.
No name revealed but we can see who does what.
Bunch of hypocrites and cheaters. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11100 |
LMan: not grumpy at all - just realistic. and what Ian said - since i could see how ppl actually vote, i just dont take it seriously anymore at all. its a silly game, and the result should be taken as such. |
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LMan
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79 |
Interesting insight. Oh well. If it makes em happy 😄 But somehow I doubt it does. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
jury voting has its downs aswell, like when TDJ's 2 screener 1 file demo won over Clarence's comeback trackmo. :P |
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