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2020-05-04 01:19
Flex

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 102
Handle id #3502 : Sam

I've been studying the Finnish scene-years 85-89 for some time now (reading tons of scrolltexts and making notes) and I noticed that there are two different Sams that has been mixed up pretty bad here.

Sam / Point-X and Sam / Swapping with Amazing Programs are 2 different persons.

Sam (Sami M.) from Point-X later on (08/1988) joined Axion 1999 and then (early 1989) Browbeat . He followed pretty much the same path as his Point-X groupmate Dr.Code . They both lived in Kirkkonummi, Finland.

Sam (Samuli K.) from SWAP (originated from Nuutajärvi, Finland) later on (05-06/1989) joined Browbeat and changed his handle to Zarex (most likely because there was one Sam already) and then (around 08-09/1989) he joined Beyond Force and changed his handle back to Sam.

This is a real mess at CSDb at the moment. It will get even messier if I start making changes... :-)
2020-05-05 19:11
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3128
I would start creating a different Sam_PointX and rename current one into Sam_SWAP, so you can easily pick up the correct one while fixing entries, and start correcting the entries which don't belong to Sam_SWAP changing the credits to Sam_PointX.
Then fix the group of membership of both, adding the years of join/leave.
At the end both can be renamed to Sam.
2020-05-06 22:34
Flex

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 102
Ok, this is a future job to do (if anyone won't do it before me)... I'll go on with my scene-studies for the moment.
2020-05-12 09:50
Sam

Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 13
Flex, you are correct about the "two Sams", the short period in Browbeat for me with the different handle mixed up things.

I have to further complicate things for you: there was also "Mr.Sam" in Beyond Force, who is still another Sam. We co-existed in peace in Beyond. Mr.Sam did mostly graphics, and I have some of his logos credited to me, such as Atrix Logo 1 (notice "Mr.Sam" in the screenshot).
2020-05-12 09:54
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Great info. But please fix incorrect credits when you see them. I've changed it to Mr.Sam in that entry now.
2021-02-23 02:57
Flex

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 102
All cleared up in the database now.

All Sams in right places and credits should be there where credit is due. Also managed to dig up more history for Point-X Sam .
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