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2011-05-08 17:10
v3to

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 136
Double Screen Compo Voting

Okay - all entries are in and it is time for voting.

Take your time and check the pictures properly. If you like to check it on a C64, I'd recommend to turn off the volume, because music tends to alter atmosphere. Now here come the rules:

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CHOOSE 3 FAVORITES - NO MORE - NO LESS
SEND YOUR CHOICE VIA PM TO ENTHUSI OR ME
OR BY MAIL TO << COMPO[AT SPAMSUCKS]C64PIXELS[DOT]COM >>
PLEASE DO NOT FORGET YOUR HANDLE/GROUP OR NAME
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Deadline for voting is June 7th 2011 (know it is a long term but c64pixels-visitors are watching random)

Good luck to all contestants !


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Looking Outward by Celtic, code by Zielok
Additional content according compo rules: Music
Format: MultiColor


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Monroe 6569 by Diggr
Format: Charmode


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Asteroidmine by Grass, code by Cruzer
Format: MultiColor


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The Raven by Dane
Additional content according compo rules: Dark red and dark grey are laced
Format: MultiColor


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CARGO by Twoflower, code by Cruzer
Additional content according compo rules: Music
Picture format: MultiColor, 4-colors, Colorscheme is matching Charmode


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A Kind of Magic by Yazoo, code by Axis
Additional content according compo rules: Music, scrolltext (can be disabled by pressing spacebar)
Picture format: MultiColor
 
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2011-05-18 18:46
Dane

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 412
Regarding the recent comments and original supplies for some of my pictures here on CSDB, I have uploaded some workstages and/or production notes for Gfx, Ray of Light, Homoerotic, Sleepyhead and Bextor. I'd appreciate it if you'd elaborate any comments on those releases further than just calling them conversions.

Anyway, that's it for me. I'll focus on music now.
2011-05-18 21:17
Bitbreaker

Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 425
Thing is, people can copy, convert, whatsoever, and if the result looks nice, it looks nice, if it is nude women, even better. One is free to do anything. However if you talk about art and artists, an artwork always consists of two parts, the idea, and how you realize the idea with your pixelling techniques and style. If the idea is not yours, then one half is simply missing, and thus you will loose penissize. An artist without ideas essentially lacks creativity or invests most of the creativity in faking some workingsteps.
I guess everyone tried to convert once, i even wrote converters, for the sake of seeing how good porn could look on a c64. But when it is about doing handpixelled/petscii graphics i chose to do all on my own, for having the free choice about my motif that i can adopt at any time during pixelling, and last but not least, i just feel better this way, what supports my motivation while drawing.
Easy like that.

Bitbreaker/Nuance^Metalvotze
2011-05-18 22:12
Ragnarok
Account closed

Registered: May 2008
Posts: 1
what bitbreaker said. +dont be such pussies
2011-05-19 09:47
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1302
As a compo organizer (LCP compo) I'd just like to make a comment from that point of view:

The LCP philosophy has always been a liberal one when it comes to compos, i.e. to try to keep the number of rules that specify what is allowed and what is not at a minimum and instead leave the issue of what is good/bad/acceptable etc to those who vote in the compo. This idea was already mentioned by someone above in this thread but I just wanted to say that this is how it works on LCP. For example, if someone puts music in their "graphics entry" (a big taboo for some, at least once upon a time), some will vote "sucks" to this, and someone will perhaps like it because they felt that the music fitted in and they may not be as anal about keeping compo categories strictly isolated from each other even though such an entry would be closer to "demo" than pure graphics.

The same logic of course apply to various forms of graphics entries as such. People may submit workstages or not. They may do stuff that resides in the borderland of "graphics" or not. (Animations, anyone? Animations clearly fall between the stools of the "classic" compo categories.) They may make copies of some other pictures, or even converts, but don't tell people about it (hence people would have to judge the picture as such, rather than the process that lead up to it) or they may supply the original they used and tell people what their sources were, and so forth.

Then it is up to the voters to make sense of this. If someone dislikes the fact that a certain pixel d00d did not state whether the picture he submitted was a copy or not, then one may simply vote low for this entry. This approach can be questioned of course, but we prefer to leave issues like this to the scene, rather than to decide those things "von oben". I don't think there will ever be a state of agreement in the scene, where people will think the same way about the value of various contributions to the compo. Conclusion: Let people have their opinions and let them vote accordingly. Don't force them to comply to rules that fit some people but not others. If most people dislike something, it will be voted low anyway, but at least we got some healthy plurality in the releases available for our dear machine.
2011-05-19 10:12
Archmage

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 178
When I look at this thread, all I see is a whole bunch of letters.
2011-05-19 10:49
Mr. SID

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 335
^^^ What Archmage said.

Plus I see some pretty pictures at the beginning of the thread. Whoever made those should make some more!
2011-05-19 11:00
Bitbreaker

Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 425
@Frantic

I guess that works fine with a c64-audience only, but not so well on mixed partys.
2011-05-19 11:19
SanderFocus

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 459
Quoting Mr. SID
^^^ What Archmage said.

Plus I see some pretty pictures at the beginning of the thread. Whoever made those should make some more!


Really dissapointing :(
2011-05-19 20:19
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8115
some like to cover their eyes.... for peace and harmony.
2011-05-19 20:34
Deev

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 150
I actually find this thread a positive thing, quite inspiring really. I know hardly any minds have been changed, but it makes me less worried about trying to hang on to the hardcore pixelling element of my work which is needed to compete in compos, instead I may as well just go out there and have some fun making new things! (of course I'll still obsess over it too much and never complete half of the things I start, but what the hell! :) )
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