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2011-05-08 15:10
v3to

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 150
Double Screen Compo Voting

Okay - all entries are in and it is time for voting.

Take your time and check the pictures properly. If you like to check it on a C64, I'd recommend to turn off the volume, because music tends to alter atmosphere. Now here come the rules:

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CHOOSE 3 FAVORITES - NO MORE - NO LESS
SEND YOUR CHOICE VIA PM TO ENTHUSI OR ME
OR BY MAIL TO << COMPO[AT SPAMSUCKS]C64PIXELS[DOT]COM >>
PLEASE DO NOT FORGET YOUR HANDLE/GROUP OR NAME
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Deadline for voting is June 7th 2011 (know it is a long term but c64pixels-visitors are watching random)

Good luck to all contestants !


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Looking Outward by Celtic, code by Zielok
Additional content according compo rules: Music
Format: MultiColor


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Monroe 6569 by Diggr
Format: Charmode


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Asteroidmine by Grass, code by Cruzer
Format: MultiColor


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The Raven by Dane
Additional content according compo rules: Dark red and dark grey are laced
Format: MultiColor


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CARGO by Twoflower, code by Cruzer
Additional content according compo rules: Music
Picture format: MultiColor, 4-colors, Colorscheme is matching Charmode


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A Kind of Magic by Yazoo, code by Axis
Additional content according compo rules: Music, scrolltext (can be disabled by pressing spacebar)
Picture format: MultiColor
 
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2011-05-10 13:18
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
Quote:
Anyway, for this compo, there was no rule the art has to be original work. So IMHO all the fuss here is just pure drama :D

with that i can certainly agree =)

digger: i have infact started coding some kind of "genetic" algorithm to convert (right now just koala) gfx, the goal beeing pretty much what you say (produce a picture by "rules of graphics people", eventually leading a not so obviously converted look). so far however, the results are very disappointing =P
2011-05-10 13:40
booker
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@Mace, @Hedning - I agree with you. This can be simply solved with compo rules (participants suppose to provide reference pictures, if used) and linking those along with publishing the entries. This also solves plagiarism (which we can talk about only if the author claims the originality but really the idea for the picture is not hers/his).

And I said "drama" because some people here are shouting on an unsolved debate, namely "is putting a converted picture/tune cover on a compo lame or not"?

Never did a gfx convert, but for tunes it can take a lot of time. So I'm sure some people spent long hours on doing these converts. And c'mon - most of them are good quality.
2011-05-10 14:19
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
btw, on BP (and now revision) the solution is this: "Entries have to be free of third party rights unless you have a legal license to use the given content.". also workstages must be submitted. and yes, we did disqualify pictures for beeing converted in the past.
2011-05-10 14:33
booker
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Yep, that's also a solution (that is, if you want to disallow converts/covers).

2011-05-10 14:38
Shadow
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Posts: 355
Quote: Wow, the competitors make this a difficult vote.

Downloading the entries I recognized it has become common behaviour to upload files in .prg format. Come on, this is still C64 and not VICE/CCS64 world. Give your programs a 16 chars file name and put them into a .t64 or .d64. Thanks.


Having files in PRG-format actually makes it easier for me to run it on my real C64!
If something is in .PRG format, I just copy it to MMC, insert into my MMC64, start and instantly have it running on the real deal.
If it is in D64 I have to either use D64Editor to extract the PRG, or copy the D64 to MMC, find an empty disk, sit through a whole disk transfer wait and then load. I often end up just using VICE instead.
So .PRG doesn't necessarily mean "VICE-only-lamers" :D
2011-05-10 15:12
JCB
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Posts: 241
The only problem with disallowing copies is people might just go out of their way to find more obscure things. Thankfully Twoflower was honest enough to submit his source image to Veto so obviously wasn't trying to hide it, but who else on here knew where it was from apart from me?

For all anyone knows a picture like Asteroid Mine might still be "based" on an image, like a book cover, so not 100% original.

I suppose anyone who tries to get away with it just suffers more when/if they're finally found out.
2011-05-10 15:18
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
demanding workstages usually works quite well to find out wether something is just a copy. if details pop up from nowhere, its usually clear why =)
2011-05-10 15:40
v3to

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 150
Heidi
2011-05-10 15:42
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 675
gpz: side note: Id call last BP's 1st (!) and 3rd place a copy/convert...
2011-05-10 16:29
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
as for plain converts, look at #7 =)

other than that, #1 certainly is no "plain copy" (but a collage), same for that heidi pic (although just adding some background is questionable, agreed).

there were much more questionable pics with workstages were half of the pictures emerges from nowhere =)
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