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2011-05-08 15:10
v3to

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 150
Double Screen Compo Voting

Okay - all entries are in and it is time for voting.

Take your time and check the pictures properly. If you like to check it on a C64, I'd recommend to turn off the volume, because music tends to alter atmosphere. Now here come the rules:

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CHOOSE 3 FAVORITES - NO MORE - NO LESS
SEND YOUR CHOICE VIA PM TO ENTHUSI OR ME
OR BY MAIL TO << COMPO[AT SPAMSUCKS]C64PIXELS[DOT]COM >>
PLEASE DO NOT FORGET YOUR HANDLE/GROUP OR NAME
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Deadline for voting is June 7th 2011 (know it is a long term but c64pixels-visitors are watching random)

Good luck to all contestants !


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Looking Outward by Celtic, code by Zielok
Additional content according compo rules: Music
Format: MultiColor


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Monroe 6569 by Diggr
Format: Charmode


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Asteroidmine by Grass, code by Cruzer
Format: MultiColor


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The Raven by Dane
Additional content according compo rules: Dark red and dark grey are laced
Format: MultiColor


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CARGO by Twoflower, code by Cruzer
Additional content according compo rules: Music
Picture format: MultiColor, 4-colors, Colorscheme is matching Charmode


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A Kind of Magic by Yazoo, code by Axis
Additional content according compo rules: Music, scrolltext (can be disabled by pressing spacebar)
Picture format: MultiColor
 
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2011-05-16 09:34
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274
my point once again, was that recognised "classic" artwork done from a photograph would be classed as COPY by your PERSONAL standards, and it is you that are being blinkered by you own refusal to accept any other viewpoint.

This is not about loading screens or the past, this is about your personal preference and your crusade against any artwork that doesnt fit your personal preference really isn't it?

"Cargo" for example is done from a video still.
It is obviously redrawn, certainly no convert so is this less valid than Jane Russell's publicity still being turned into a piece of recognised classic artwork?

Ditto for Fraulein Kinski , The Hero Is Back , AT's Star Trek or Girl

all portraits, all done from photographs therefore "copies" as are 1000s of portraits all classed as "art" every year entered into galleries and competitions.

I applaud your adherance to producing original stuff, but it's a big world out there and not everyone appreciates the same "art".

Steve
2011-05-16 09:35
Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 421
@Mermaid: Lots of fear... That was entertaining ;-)
2011-05-16 09:46
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 335
Dear STE,

I hope one day you overcome your fears and try riding a bike without support wheels.

Love,

Mermaid
2011-05-16 10:24
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274
Dear Vanja,

this isnt about me or what I like to produce. I don't enter competitions, I never have, so it makes no difference to me what the rules are.

I am defending other people's right to draw what they want and enter it freely. As long as they DO draw it.

snide remarks just show what an attitude problem you seem to have with anyone whose opinion does not mirror you own which is basically what this witchhunt you have started is all about.

instead of talking about other people's "fears" why can't you adopt the attitude that "my stuff is better than copies" and rely on the voters integrity to decide whose deserves the win?

Steve

EDIT: but i do agree that sources if used must be quoted so Joe Public actually know.
2011-05-16 10:36
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 335
STE, sorry but you are the one who is making this personal by reducing this debate to "Mermaid's crusade against those poor artists", and now even a "witchhunt".

Several times in this discussion I have pointed out that I do not mind people copying (and that it is a great way of learning about anatomy and whatnot) as long as they show the source material. What I have a problem with is people submitting 1:1 copies and coloured scans in graphics competitions. Do I need to spell it out to you one more time?
2011-05-16 10:52
Radiant

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639
I don't have any problems with people copying other people's art, I have a problem with people being dishonest. It's fine if you're not good enough to draw your own motifs, but then you should make it clear the work isn't yours originally. I'd be pissed off if I found out someone had copied something I did and didn't give me credit for the work behind it.
2011-05-16 11:02
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274
yes i'm afraid you do, because while i can understand the machine converted/scan exception cannot see WHY you have a problem with hand drawn 1:1 copies being entered as long as its tagged as such or is with sources.

personally as i have said before, i can see no real difference between this and rotoscoping.

basically give the voter the information and let them decide.

Steve
2011-05-16 11:14
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 335
Because if you want to show off your über copying skills then there ought to be a separate competition for that, just like there have been separate music competitions over at c64.sk for cover tunes.

The motif is a pretty damn major part in what makes a picture, and when that motif is someone else's work, I don't find it right to enter it in a regular graphics competition, regardless if it is wired, traced, overpainted, underpainted, or copied the "hard" way.
2011-05-16 11:27
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274
but then that just comes down your opinion that you are repeatedly trying to foist on everyone else again doesn't it?

and says more about your insecurities than other folks really.

Steve
2011-05-16 11:30
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 269
Gotta love the scene... LOL
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