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2011-05-08 17:10
v3to

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 136
Double Screen Compo Voting

Okay - all entries are in and it is time for voting.

Take your time and check the pictures properly. If you like to check it on a C64, I'd recommend to turn off the volume, because music tends to alter atmosphere. Now here come the rules:

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CHOOSE 3 FAVORITES - NO MORE - NO LESS
SEND YOUR CHOICE VIA PM TO ENTHUSI OR ME
OR BY MAIL TO << COMPO[AT SPAMSUCKS]C64PIXELS[DOT]COM >>
PLEASE DO NOT FORGET YOUR HANDLE/GROUP OR NAME
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Deadline for voting is June 7th 2011 (know it is a long term but c64pixels-visitors are watching random)

Good luck to all contestants !


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Looking Outward by Celtic, code by Zielok
Additional content according compo rules: Music
Format: MultiColor


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Monroe 6569 by Diggr
Format: Charmode


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Asteroidmine by Grass, code by Cruzer
Format: MultiColor


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The Raven by Dane
Additional content according compo rules: Dark red and dark grey are laced
Format: MultiColor


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CARGO by Twoflower, code by Cruzer
Additional content according compo rules: Music
Picture format: MultiColor, 4-colors, Colorscheme is matching Charmode


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A Kind of Magic by Yazoo, code by Axis
Additional content according compo rules: Music, scrolltext (can be disabled by pressing spacebar)
Picture format: MultiColor
 
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2011-05-16 12:36
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 322
STE, sorry but you are the one who is making this personal by reducing this debate to "Mermaid's crusade against those poor artists", and now even a "witchhunt".

Several times in this discussion I have pointed out that I do not mind people copying (and that it is a great way of learning about anatomy and whatnot) as long as they show the source material. What I have a problem with is people submitting 1:1 copies and coloured scans in graphics competitions. Do I need to spell it out to you one more time?
2011-05-16 12:52
Radiant

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 626
I don't have any problems with people copying other people's art, I have a problem with people being dishonest. It's fine if you're not good enough to draw your own motifs, but then you should make it clear the work isn't yours originally. I'd be pissed off if I found out someone had copied something I did and didn't give me credit for the work behind it.
2011-05-16 13:02
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 270
yes i'm afraid you do, because while i can understand the machine converted/scan exception cannot see WHY you have a problem with hand drawn 1:1 copies being entered as long as its tagged as such or is with sources.

personally as i have said before, i can see no real difference between this and rotoscoping.

basically give the voter the information and let them decide.

Steve
2011-05-16 13:14
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 322
Because if you want to show off your über copying skills then there ought to be a separate competition for that, just like there have been separate music competitions over at c64.sk for cover tunes.

The motif is a pretty damn major part in what makes a picture, and when that motif is someone else's work, I don't find it right to enter it in a regular graphics competition, regardless if it is wired, traced, overpainted, underpainted, or copied the "hard" way.
2011-05-16 13:27
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 270
but then that just comes down your opinion that you are repeatedly trying to foist on everyone else again doesn't it?

and says more about your insecurities than other folks really.

Steve
2011-05-16 13:30
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 216
Gotta love the scene... LOL
2011-05-16 13:43
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 322
STE: Oh really? Are you of the opinion that the motif does not matter at all when judging a picture's qualities then?

And furthermore, If I was insecure about any of this, I strongly suspect I would be staying far away from this discussion.
2011-05-16 13:49
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1768
This was a rather modest discussion with lots of content untill some people thought it was wise to come up with all sorts of details, comparisons and personal issues... :-(
2011-05-16 13:59
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 270
Not at all, I personally despise wires and "pseudo wires" that you know really are but the artist won't admit it.

and i do SO love to see these "outed"

I do however think that anything thats been done by hand in any method is "fair game" for a competition as long as all is declared and workstages provided if required.

and its not up the competing artists or potential competing artists to decide what is "art"

as i have said, provide all information, let the voters decide what they like...

and ban any lying bugger who is found out later from future events :) along with removing their entry wins from csdb.

Steve
2011-05-16 14:17
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 322
Well, I disagree with you there (surprise surprise!), a major part of a picture is the motif and entering a graphics competition (unless it is a competition designed to find out who is the best copyer) with a copy of someone else's motif is lame. That is my opinion, and discussions would be rather boring without opinions, so there.

Also, I'm not sure I've used the word art anywhere earlier in this discussion, except maybe once with a " on each end, if I have that was an oversight. I'm generally reluctant to use that word and consider myself an illustrator, not an artist. Put it down to my insecurities if you will.
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