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2013-06-24 10:17
Carrion

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317
Article about C+4/C64 pixeling

I started a series of articles about C+4 pixeling. Not exactly a subject for this forum but since few people here (PM) asked me about this and I have a lot of references to C64 pixeling I let you know about this.
This serie of articles (showing every week from now) will reference to C64 pixeling and tools like Timanthes/Grafx2 which I think might be usefull to CSDb too.
so...
http://crrnpixels.pl/2013/06/24/pixeling-for-c4-part-1/
 
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2013-06-26 22:11
Murphy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 10
CRRN: Awesome pictures!

rexbeng: Just to compare ;)

C64 palette


Amstrad palette


Plus/4 palette
2013-06-27 06:41
rexbeng

Registered: Aug 2012
Posts: 30
Yes, but there's no restriction! In "multicolor" mode on the Amstrad you can have all 16 colors in every 4x8 pixel block if you want. :)

Aditionally, the newer Amstrad Plus models have a 4096 color palette.

Still, I don't care so much about the width of the color palette. The restrictions are the interesting part. People who make pixel art on the +4 are brave. :)

Say, since we're at it, I wonder what the Atari 8 restrictions are?
2013-06-27 13:36
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274
atari is

4 color only in 160x200 2 colour only in 320x200 bitmap modes.

"colourful" atari pics are created by "underlaying" blocks of PMGs (sprites) to give areas of a different colour.

the "software" modes cannot be used while loading because the interrupts used have adverse effects of the timing needed to display the sprite colout blocks. so loading screens are strictly hardware and 4 colors.
2013-06-27 21:20
algorithm

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 702
There is this nice converter on Atari that uses a method of LAHC (Late acceptance hill climbing) that gradually improves the destination image via generating color combinations per raster line (4 or so) together with PMG's.
Some of the images look rather impressive. (For an Atari!)
One example below..

http://atariage.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=attach&sec..
2013-06-28 06:09
Carrion

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317
@Algorithm
This Atari mode you are talking about is a software trick. in the same sense like we have FLI, NUFLI and C+4 has MFLI...
but the RC (Rasta Converter by some polish Atari scener) you're talking about is actually a excelent tool to play with.

I did played a bit with it lately to try if I can convert pixeled (my old pics) images to this mode or is it only for converting porn ;)
I wrote few words about it here:
http://crrnpixels.pl/2013/06/22/crrn-loves-atari/
the author of the tool also commented on my blog and gave some interesting inputs on how his tool works
2014-09-21 14:49
Carrion

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317
thought you may be interested to see my latest C+4 picture.
http://retronavigator.com/post/98045368618/one-zak-and-his-krac..
2014-09-22 21:47
Luca

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178
Quote: thought you may be interested to see my latest C+4 picture.
http://retronavigator.com/post/98045368618/one-zak-and-his-krac..


...which is, IMHO, your best picture ever on any system so far! Because of theme, palette usage, overall quality.

2014-09-23 19:28
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
indeed, all details are most awesome & as a whole
2014-09-23 22:05
Hoild

Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 29
Quote: thought you may be interested to see my latest C+4 picture.
http://retronavigator.com/post/98045368618/one-zak-and-his-krac..


Stunning! Totally competitive with good Amiga and VGA graphics.
2014-09-25 20:58
Shadow
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 355
Yeah, that's a nice picture, good use of the Plus4 palette!
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