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goto80
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 138 |
timeline of SID achievements
I'm looking for a timeline of SID achievements. Does this exist? A list of important software (trackers and non-trackers, midi-sequencers and midi-slaves, sample-players and "drum machines", generatives, remix-tools, etc) and SID-tricks (playing digi-stuff, multispeed, hardrestart, etc). Who, where, when, how, why. I think a timeline over these things would be important to put together, if it doesn't already exist.
(I work on a timeline of chip music in general here: chipflip.wordpress.com/timeline. It is far from finished, of course. Suggestions are very welcome)
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Quote: Hard restart: it seems we cannot say with 100% certainty who did it first.. Laxity informed me that JCH got help to do it from him, and that he himself peeked, maybe at Bjerregaards player..
So, who did it, remains a mystery.
I don't want to spread incorrect info, and there's a portion of uncertainty to this statement. I'm pretty sure that this is a thing we (JCH and I) discussed back in the days and that I told him that I found this technique in some other driver. It's so long ago that I can't be sure what came first - the hen or the egg.. :) |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627 |
By the way; Another line of achievements that may be relevant to a time line may be the emulation stuff. In itself, emulating the SID doesn't have much to do with the real SID of course, but I am rather referring to the type of research and insights into the detailed workings of the (real) SID that the emu-stuff has resulted in. |
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Quote: By the way; Another line of achievements that may be relevant to a time line may be the emulation stuff. In itself, emulating the SID doesn't have much to do with the real SID of course, but I am rather referring to the type of research and insights into the detailed workings of the (real) SID that the emu-stuff has resulted in.
1990:
1) PHS codes "The Galway Show" sidplayer on Amiga, released in a demo coded by Red Sector (I think?)
1991:
1) PHS and Il Sturo release "The 100 Most Remembered C64 Tunes", an amiga demo with 100 sidtunes.
2) PHS and Il Sturo release PlaySID 1.0 on amiga.
1992:
1) PHS and Il Sturo release PlaySID 2.0b on amiga.
2) Michael Schwendt release SIDPLAY on PC.
1993:
1) PHS and Il Sturo release PlaySID 3 on amiga.
2) Michael Schwendt now upgrades SIDPLAY on pc so regular that there is a new version every month, until 1997.
1996:
1) PHS/CCS releases CCS64, a C64 emulator for PC, it has the playSID routines included, and at this point is the ruling C64 emulator, for many years, until the VICE project gets up to standards.
2000: ??? (i cant remember the year)
1) Simon White releases SIDPLAY 2 (cycle accurate)
The SID filter routines are the ones being changed with every update of SIDPLAY 1/2, and..
2008:
1) The work by Alankila, concerning the SID filter emulation, is included in VICE emulator, and SIDPLAY 2 windows.
Alankila's work is based on microscope peekings and more or less complete disassembly of real SID chips.
Another guy, Kevtris, is working on a complete physical rebuild of the SID chip. (microscopes, oscilloscopes, soldering stuff)
This was just the main things that happened, concerning SID emulation.. :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
you forgot the very first (non c64) demo with sidmusic (YO! by future crew) |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132 |
Quote: you forgot the very first (non c64) demo with sidmusic (YO! by future crew)
I thought they were only covers of Whittaker's songs played thru the pc speaker, not actual sids. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
*afaik* they are actually (poorly) emulated. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132 |
Quote: *afaik* they are actually (poorly) emulated.
unpacked yo.exe, no sidfile or 6502 code in it. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
ah, ok then :) |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132 |
The only pc production I know that uses an actual sid file and a simple emulation is turrican32k by farbrausch, I know about it because I've ripped it and sent to HVSC some year ago =)
Turrican 32k
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
btw while we are at: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=3762 features actual (kinda poor =P) sid emulation too :) |
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