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2013-08-11 19:00
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1359
When is a One-File Demo not a One-File Demo?

So, I've finally finished a small release (title+one effect+music), except it's 250 blocks long even before I decrunch it; initial load is from $0801 to $fffe

It's all a single file, that if I send to my c64 via codenet it runs just fine standalone, but in order to make it loadable with stock 1541+c64 I'm bundling it with the Effluvium loader. (cf Packer/decruncher for under IO?)

Should I make the Release Type "C64 One-File Demo" or "C64 Demo"?
 
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2013-08-13 19:56
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 885
I did say that I counted that slideshow as a demo, no? :) I'm just saying that the difference between demo/onefiler might not be that easy to define..
2013-08-14 06:30
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1359
Nocode-slide is a very cool hack.

It's also an excellent demonstration of the inappropriateness of a simplistic "single file = one file demo" rule. Thanks for bringing it up, WVL.
2013-08-14 06:51
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1987
Quote: Nocode-slide is a very cool hack.

It's also an excellent demonstration of the inappropriateness of a simplistic "single file = one file demo" rule. Thanks for bringing it up, WVL.


How about: If you can LOAD, and then SAVE and get a correct copy of the file, then it's a single file, otherwise demo.
2013-08-14 07:59
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5007
/nitpicking

i think this is in the grey zone, what if I can load it in with a software fastloader? it's still loadable with a stock machine, and its still one file only :P

at the end of the day it doesnt really matters.
2013-08-14 10:26
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11088
i cant believe you are discussing this... seriously? time to remove some more useless categories....
2013-08-14 10:36
algorithm

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 702
One file demo: Single file only that does not rely on any additional files (eg loader etc) to start as well as being able to run without the help of any additional hardware (cartridges)
2013-08-14 11:06
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11088
how about: if it is one file, then it is one file?

*shakes head*
2013-08-14 12:41
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 885
By that definition, nocode-slide is a single file demo. But I kinda disagree with that :)
2013-08-14 14:38
Mr. SID

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 419
It's a one-file demo if you start it with RUN and it still works if you remove the disk from the drive before hitting RETURN.
2013-08-14 15:16
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 674
if you can load AND execute it with kernal TAPE load its a one-filer.
(Disk)drive code renders it non-one-file ;-)
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