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2017-11-27 13:05
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 904
HDMI upscaling on a budget

I love my CRT to death, but sometimes a more compact option is needed. Does anyone know of an HDMI upscaler that doesn't cost $400, outputs 50 Hz without artifacts or dropping frames, and shows aspect correct 4:3 with black bars on a 16:9 display? The $30 converters on eBay are crap. Specifically, has anyone tried these KanexPro converters? http://www.kanexpro.com/converters/composite/
 
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2017-12-05 23:30
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 919
Oh, you :) My point was you can get ready-made PCBs with FPGAs on them for cheap, and can solder your well-shielded HF cable to them alright (and don't forget to remove the little antenna on that hole) signal integrity should be good enough. After all, USB2/3 and whatnot pin headers exist.

But anyways, hope springs eternal and all that, re: original topic. :)
2017-12-06 01:47
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8317
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygDLpQfsCag
2017-12-06 09:27
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 904
Quote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygDLpQfsCag

Whoa that looks perfect! Here's hoping it'll do PAL as well.

http://www.retrotink.com/#Products
2017-12-15 12:59
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 904
Quote: Whoa that looks perfect! Here's hoping it'll do PAL as well.

http://www.retrotink.com/#Products


Mike Chi replied: "The RetroTink 2X will be capable of doubling PAL sources to 576p50." 👍🏼
2017-12-15 13:24
dano

Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 115
Quote: Mike Chi replied: "The RetroTink 2X will be capable of doubling PAL sources to 576p50." 👍🏼

Oh nice to hear!

Did he tell something about when this device will be available and for what price?

Still it will be interesting how my Beamer or receiver will deal with a 576p signal as the smoothing of the S-Video sucks big time quite some times..
2017-12-15 17:23
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 904
No, I didn't ask - it's a hobby project so I guess it'll be ready when it's ready. Check out his YouTube channel, he seems to post updates when there's progress.

Every projector I've checked has official support for 576p50 so I don't think compatibility will be an issue.
2017-12-15 17:57
dano

Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 115
Quote: No, I didn't ask - it's a hobby project so I guess it'll be ready when it's ready. Check out his YouTube channel, he seems to post updates when there's progress.

Every projector I've checked has official support for 576p50 so I don't think compatibility will be an issue.


I know my beamer can handle it, it also displays my normal c64 svideo signal. Yet the image get some sort of awkwardly upscaled making the square pixels round'ish.

Need to check how my receiver with its component input deals with the image interim..
2017-12-16 10:29
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 904
Many upscalers do indeed suck, but with a scandoubled signal they should at least suck half as bad.
2017-12-16 10:44
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 2483
Ok I have another very ignorant question.
I have 1920x1200 samsung tv/monitor with video input. I connected my C64 using scart and what I see on screen is sort of textured and blurry. It is usable for e.g. composing and playing, but I can't imagine doing pixelling om that. It doesn't look like sharp pixels, nor PAL.

How the Framemeister handles this? And how does retrotink does it? I wish I could use any PC monitor and have either clean sharp screen (as from emulator) or something that is capable of look like PAL screen (or both - switchable).

I have never seen output from this kind of convertors. So that's why I ask.
2017-12-16 11:00
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 2483
Ok I checked the video (two guys talking about framemeister). It looks impressive. Hmmm. Now question is. Is Retrotink as good too? For ~1/3 of money?

I checked this video (c64 with retromeister). Ok now I get it I think. It's worth the mnoney it seems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cNk4FQ7aWQ
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