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2017-11-27 12:05
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
HDMI upscaling on a budget

I love my CRT to death, but sometimes a more compact option is needed. Does anyone know of an HDMI upscaler that doesn't cost $400, outputs 50 Hz without artifacts or dropping frames, and shows aspect correct 4:3 with black bars on a 16:9 display? The $30 converters on eBay are crap. Specifically, has anyone tried these KanexPro converters? http://www.kanexpro.com/converters/composite/
 
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2017-12-15 16:57
Dano

Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 226
Quote: No, I didn't ask - it's a hobby project so I guess it'll be ready when it's ready. Check out his YouTube channel, he seems to post updates when there's progress.

Every projector I've checked has official support for 576p50 so I don't think compatibility will be an issue.


I know my beamer can handle it, it also displays my normal c64 svideo signal. Yet the image get some sort of awkwardly upscaled making the square pixels round'ish.

Need to check how my receiver with its component input deals with the image interim..
2017-12-16 09:29
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
Many upscalers do indeed suck, but with a scandoubled signal they should at least suck half as bad.
2017-12-16 09:44
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3034
Ok I have another very ignorant question.
I have 1920x1200 samsung tv/monitor with video input. I connected my C64 using scart and what I see on screen is sort of textured and blurry. It is usable for e.g. composing and playing, but I can't imagine doing pixelling om that. It doesn't look like sharp pixels, nor PAL.

How the Framemeister handles this? And how does retrotink does it? I wish I could use any PC monitor and have either clean sharp screen (as from emulator) or something that is capable of look like PAL screen (or both - switchable).

I have never seen output from this kind of convertors. So that's why I ask.
2017-12-16 10:00
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3034
Ok I checked the video (two guys talking about framemeister). It looks impressive. Hmmm. Now question is. Is Retrotink as good too? For ~1/3 of money?

I checked this video (c64 with retromeister). Ok now I get it I think. It's worth the mnoney it seems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cNk4FQ7aWQ
2017-12-17 19:47
Fix

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 54
Will be interesting if The RetroTink 2X is the shit...
2017-12-20 11:38
Deev

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 206
Quote: Ok I checked the video (two guys talking about framemeister). It looks impressive. Hmmm. Now question is. Is Retrotink as good too? For ~1/3 of money?

I checked this video (c64 with retromeister). Ok now I get it I think. It's worth the mnoney it seems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cNk4FQ7aWQ


Taper wrote an article in Attitude which might also be useful.

http://www.cactus.jawnet.pl/attitude/?action=readtext&issue=15&..

I will maybe try and take some photos that show how it looks. It isn't perfect, because the C64's output isn't perfect, but it looks much better than going directly into my TV. It handles 50hz motion very well too, although that's not really something I can demonstrate.
2017-12-20 12:17
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3034
Why there is 2 times bigger price on amazon.de?

and which one should I buy?

https://solarisjapan.com/collections/micomsoft
2017-12-20 12:36
Dano

Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 226
Quote: Why there is 2 times bigger price on amazon.de?

and which one should I buy?

https://solarisjapan.com/collections/micomsoft


They now sell the Framemeister with EU Delivery/Option, get that one. Will be less hassle with customs. And better get a english decal for the remote if you're not that good with japanese.. :D
2017-12-20 12:36
soci

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 472
Is Duty+VAT included?
2017-12-20 13:02
Dano

Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 226
Quote: Is Duty+VAT included?

Special offer for European customers: Receive your XRGB Framemeister directly from within the EU and avoid all import fees and customs troubles. We wholeheartedly recommend this option to our customers in the EU:

    Guaranteed no arguing with customs inspections
    Guaranteed no additional import fees
    No shipping costs for express delivery
    You save up to 4000 yen compared to the import from Japan

This offer is only valid for shipping addresses in the EU.

The unit includes an international power adapter (Japanese plug), an RGB cable adapter and a remote control.



stated here:

https://solarisjapan.com/products/eu-tax-free-xrgb-mini-frameme..
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