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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1576 |
The voting system is completely retarded
I just can't wrap my head around this unmitigated, pure crap we use for voting. Here's a situation where I actually have to vote waaaay lower than it deserves, in order to increase a release's rating.
This is simply ridiculous.
"Hey, this release is really cool, I'll give it a tenner."
"WTF, the rating got lower?!? Ok, maybe it counts as an illicit upvote and it is filtered with some clever algorythm, let's go with 9 then."
"Damn, now it's way lower than it would be without my vote. Maybe an 8 will help?"
"Nah, this is getting worse, but let's see what happens if I vote with a 7."
"Shit, still no good, I'll jump to an ever lower number just for the sake of experiencing more of this shit."
"Oh great, now we're getting somewhere, one more try."
"YEY! I love this release, so it will get a 6 from me." |
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Mr.Ammo
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 228 |
Quoting GH/MSL/Toondichters@Mr Ammo: "Tyranny" because of some C-64 release at the age of 40+? I don't think so :D
Well, then stop arguing for banning anonymous voting. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
or do it like on pouet, no point then to complain about voting :) thumb up or not. |
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Perplex
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 254 |
Quoting JailbirdWhy is this list of number of votes per value necessary at all?
It contains more information that any average score would.
If you don't like how the weighted average is calculated, you can use the statistical data to calculate your own average, weighted any way you like (or not weighted at all.) |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1576 |
Or if you don't like your rating, just imagine all the votes you got are 10. Problem no more! |
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Mixer
Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 422 |
Jailbird: hah, exactly.
One can imagine an adhoc compo, which has a rule that voters should only vote the winner by giving it 10, and no other votes, also every participant gets 1 vote of 10 as if they voted themselves. That way every entry that is voted will get 10 average, and the winner can be selected by most votes. |
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GH
Registered: Sep 2014
Posts: 77 |
@Mr Ammo: Down voting anonymous should be banned. Of course.
All the other solutions are annoying and won't solve anything.
Don't waste your ammo ;) |
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Linus
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 638 |
No, forced public voting will make things worse :) Even less votes will result in averages that dont mean a thing at all anymore. Also itll stir up drama a lot. People are people no matter the age.
If you compare the averages of hidden and public votes youll find they dont differ much anyway. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Vote if you want, and care if you want, but CSDb is not about voting. Enjoy the releases and have fun. Over and out. |
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Zirias
Registered: Jan 2014
Posts: 48 |
Quoting Mr AmmoIf you look at the data. Do you really think there's a problem with down voting? Or anonymous voting? Most definitely not.
Quoting Mr AmmoIs it likely that public voters have a bias towards up voting or voting what is socially desired? But it sure looks like this is the case? In fact, with the results you calculated, I'd argue that *public* voting should be disabled. With a scale of 10 values, it's silly to only use the top two or three. A 6 or 7 should be considered a good vote, just not an excellent one. With public votes, you can't expect honest votes, that's it...
As for the obscure weighting algorithm, either drop it entirely or maybe it might make sense to at least take the total amount of votes into consideration as well, using a scale from not applying any weighting at all with only 15 or fewer votes to fully applying the weighting starting at 50 votes. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1576 |
Quoting hedningVote if you want, and care if you want, but CSDb is not about voting.
Ah, the good ole' "if you don't think about it, it doesn't exist" answer to all the issues.
Why are the charts and ratings on crucial sections of the site then? You could trivialize it as much as you want, but voting is a vital part of CSDb. |
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