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2018-05-10 14:17
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 272
24h rules for First Releases & board list extension

Moved this topic to the forum because it does not only belong to a special release.

In this topic the 3 lists are different:

The rules for Jazzcats list (Vandalism News) is not very precise on that topic.
"The group uploading to the majority of official sites within 24 hours of the initial first release or NTSC/PAL import will receive the points."

The rule in Game Corner (even not released for a while) is very precise here:
"If more than one group uploads a first release or PAL/NTSC import of the same game within 24 hours, the group which has its release available for download as first on the majority of official sites will get the points."
That's why we have an uneven amount of release boards.

The Propaganda List (lately published in Attitude #18) is precise as well, but different:
"You need to be first on all three boards to win the race. In other words: Make sure you spread your warez."

As an example the current release of "Hyperzap". The Facts:
* Uploaded first on Reflections by Laxity. Half hour later for Fairlight (by hedning/GP on behalf).
* Uploaded first ot Antidote by Laxity. Half hour later for Fairlight (by hedning/GP on behalf).
* The Hidden was unreachable. 15 hours later The Hidden was back. Uploaded first for Fairlight (by hedning/GP on behalf). 2 hours later by Laxity. Both within 24 hours to first upload by Laxity on Reflections.

Winner by list (by my understanding):
Vandalism News: Laxity. After Fairlight upload on The Hidden: Fairlight.
Game Corner: Laxity. First on 2 of 3 boards = majority. Point.
Proapaganda List: Laxity. After Fairlight upload on The Hidden: Fairlight.

This is a special situation. It is not uncommon that one or more boards is unreachable. But it is uncommon that it is back within the 24 timeframe and someone takes the chance to win the race ca. 20 hours after the first upload.

Best interpretation in terms of "winning a race" is in my opinion the rule of Game Corner (not just because it is mine).

And I would like to extend the list of counted boards by RapidFire which proved to be very reliable. To get an un uneven amount we would need a 5th one. My eye is on Raveolution or Frozen Floppy but none of them has proved the needed stability and availability yet. Until they do, I would opt for RapidFire as a fallback to count if situation is not clear due to unreachability of others.

This is my point to be discussed. Let's start...
 
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2018-05-11 17:18
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8513
indeed. and the OP should take this discussion to some BBS, where it belongs.
2018-05-11 17:19
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 1594
Quote: you guys are just wasting time doing nothing, go produce some releases instead, fucking lamers!11 ;)

Make a demo about it! :D
2018-05-11 17:22
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 272
Stop feeding the troll! :p
2018-05-11 17:27
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 1594
Quote: Stop feeding the troll! :p

I forsaw this happening.
2018-05-11 21:27
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 915
Regarding the 24 Hour Rule, some scenarios that come to mind that may help illustrate it:

2018-05-11 22:01
Bacchus

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 82
David - and expaning that to five BBSes. Like the solution is more BBSes ...
2018-05-11 22:20
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 1594
Quote: David - and expaning that to five BBSes. Like the solution is more BBSes ...

I love David.
2018-05-11 22:53
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 915
Do you think the table is enough for most situations? Generally speaking: most groups are uploading to all 3 counted boards anyway. We should also call out it has to be a group member uploading the group release (in case that wasn't clear too).
2018-05-11 23:48
Bacchus

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 82
My suggestion is more in line with this logic:



I have rather strong views on which is easier of the options ...
2018-05-11 23:54
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 915
Pontus, you can do this of course. However, speaking on behalf of Vandalism News, Game Corner, Attitude/Propaganda magazines: we are staying on the boards. That forum has worked well for many years for us. If other individuals or groups want to do their own thing, then there is nothing holding them back. :D
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