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2007-12-10 22:30
DeeKay

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362
SID-lovers! How about the whole HVSC on your mp3-player?

See: www.rockbox.org

Compatible with:
Apple: 1st through 5.5th generation iPod, iPod Mini and 1st generation iPod Nano (not the Shuffle, 2nd/3rd gen Nano, Classic or Touch)
Archos: Jukebox 5000, 6000, Studio, Recorder, FM Recorder, Recorder V2 and Ondio
Cowon: iAudio X5, X5V, X5L, M5 and M5L
iriver: H100, H300 and H10 series
SanDisk: Sansa c200, e200 and e200R series (not the v2 models)
Toshiba: Gigabeat X and F series (not the S series)

Among MANY other "Codecs" (OGG, FLAC, Musepack, WMA, AAC, MOD/xm, Nintendo-Stuff, even MPEG video) Rockbox also plays .sid! I checked it out for the past few days, and it's just fantastic!
There's a few bugs to be ironed out in the SID-player (see Bugreport FS#8287), but it's really well integrated into the GUI, you can put .sids in Playlists etc!
Only libsidplay, but since resid requires an FPU i guess it cannot be helped! ;-) Atleast it DOES have filter (unlike the last version of the iPodlinux SIDplayer I tried!)
This is especially fantastic for older players that are space-limited (like my 2GB Nano), because you can fit the whole HVSC on there in merely 280MB (yes, that is including FAT32 allocation-loss!)

That's not all: The Rockbox-project was started by Zagor of Horizon (they call him their "glorious leader" jokingly! 8) and Boogaloo (also HZ) is working on it as well. Even King Fisher of Triad is listed as a contributor! ;-)

People there don't seem to care much about SIDplay bugs (shame, Horizon! >:-), so if any of you SID-lovers with coding abilities feel the need to supply a patch, that'd be really awesome!.. ;-D

As always (see: iPodlinux) there's loads more stuff of debatable usefulness, shitloads of Games and some Demos... Unfortunately their text editor is pretty much absolutely useless, atleast on iPods with scrollwheel! <:-)
MPEG Video replay works fine though, as does JPG viewing and OGG replay. Those I'd consider the more useful features..
It has quite a few nifty ideas (such as showing the next track in the playlist or how much time you have left on your battery!), it is way way more userfriendly than iPodlinux and it is VERY customizable!
Go ahead, give it a try! They have a nice GUI installer! ;-) You need to have FAT32 though, so all Mac-Users with HFS-iPods are shit outta luck...

P.S: This wasn't posted into the c64 composing sub on purpose! I guess way more people have an mp3-player than just musicians! ;-)
2007-12-11 06:23
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Too bad that my archos juxebox died on me last year :( Btw, I ran Rockbox on that years ago already.

Did you know that Kjer, Bagder & Zagor of Horizon are members of the Rockbox team, or at least used to be?
2007-12-11 07:10
Laxity

Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459
I wonder if anybody every tried to port reSid to fixed point math (at the cost of precision ofcourse).
2007-12-11 08:02
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1031
Quote: Too bad that my archos juxebox died on me last year :( Btw, I ran Rockbox on that years ago already.

Did you know that Kjer, Bagder & Zagor of Horizon are members of the Rockbox team, or at least used to be?


yes I knew that after I read dk's post ;)
2007-12-11 08:05
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: yes I knew that after I read dk's post ;)

Ah. I didn't read all of his post (was in a hurry), so I kinda missed that part.

Anyway, do you know that it also runs on iPods these days?

And that your name is Burglar?

I'll stop now.
2007-12-11 09:02
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 885
I know.. but 'unfortunately' I've got a Cowon Iaudio M3L and not the M5L... then again I'm very happy with it, except it would rock if it would also play sids.. oh well.
2007-12-11 10:27
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1568
Offtopic-ish: XBox Media Center (XMBC) also plays SID's \o/
2007-12-11 10:50
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: Offtopic-ish: XBox Media Center (XMBC) also plays SID's \o/

Didn't know that, niiiiiiiiiice
2007-12-11 11:40
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
nice project, but I'd prefer some new c64 prods :P ;)
2007-12-11 18:50
Wile Coyote

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 636
Having the whole of HVSC on your mp3-player is impressive.

/pictures a lot of skipping required :D


So far I have gotten most of my favourite Sids down to 6 CD's worth of Wav's, and these Wav's have been put on my Sony Netwoek Walkman NW-MS700. I've never quite made the jump to iPods or Mp3 players.

<img scr="http://journal.mycom.co.jp/news/2002/12/10/17ds.jpg" >
Too cool :)
2007-12-14 21:19
DeeKay

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362
Some updates:
I've found out meanwhile that this SID-player isn't based on Libsid, but TinySID (by KB/TOM/Farbrausch and Rainer Sinsch, the latter also did TinySID for PSP and the Rockbox-integration!). That explains it, I was already wondering how surprisingly good libsid sounded compared to resid! ;-D
However, TinySID has problems with some tunes. Some won't play at all, some are too slow, and if the tune has Samples, you HAVE to use the PSID version!

Apparently they have subtune support already integrated (it's on fast forward, each second represents one subtune!) and one major bug is already gone while others are being worked on.. And my suggestion for including Songlenght-DB suport was positively recieved. We're getting there! ;-)

Oh, and Badger of HZ is on the project, too, just like his brother Zagor! ;-)
 
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