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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
SID-lovers! How about the whole HVSC on your mp3-player?
See: www.rockbox.org
Compatible with:
Apple: 1st through 5.5th generation iPod, iPod Mini and 1st generation iPod Nano (not the Shuffle, 2nd/3rd gen Nano, Classic or Touch)
Archos: Jukebox 5000, 6000, Studio, Recorder, FM Recorder, Recorder V2 and Ondio
Cowon: iAudio X5, X5V, X5L, M5 and M5L
iriver: H100, H300 and H10 series
SanDisk: Sansa c200, e200 and e200R series (not the v2 models)
Toshiba: Gigabeat X and F series (not the S series)
Among MANY other "Codecs" (OGG, FLAC, Musepack, WMA, AAC, MOD/xm, Nintendo-Stuff, even MPEG video) Rockbox also plays .sid! I checked it out for the past few days, and it's just fantastic!
There's a few bugs to be ironed out in the SID-player (see Bugreport FS#8287), but it's really well integrated into the GUI, you can put .sids in Playlists etc!
Only libsidplay, but since resid requires an FPU i guess it cannot be helped! ;-) Atleast it DOES have filter (unlike the last version of the iPodlinux SIDplayer I tried!)
This is especially fantastic for older players that are space-limited (like my 2GB Nano), because you can fit the whole HVSC on there in merely 280MB (yes, that is including FAT32 allocation-loss!)
That's not all: The Rockbox-project was started by Zagor of Horizon (they call him their "glorious leader" jokingly! 8) and Boogaloo (also HZ) is working on it as well. Even King Fisher of Triad is listed as a contributor! ;-)
People there don't seem to care much about SIDplay bugs (shame, Horizon! >:-), so if any of you SID-lovers with coding abilities feel the need to supply a patch, that'd be really awesome!.. ;-D
As always (see: iPodlinux) there's loads more stuff of debatable usefulness, shitloads of Games and some Demos... Unfortunately their text editor is pretty much absolutely useless, atleast on iPods with scrollwheel! <:-)
MPEG Video replay works fine though, as does JPG viewing and OGG replay. Those I'd consider the more useful features..
It has quite a few nifty ideas (such as showing the next track in the playlist or how much time you have left on your battery!), it is way way more userfriendly than iPodlinux and it is VERY customizable!
Go ahead, give it a try! They have a nice GUI installer! ;-) You need to have FAT32 though, so all Mac-Users with HFS-iPods are shit outta luck...
P.S: This wasn't posted into the c64 composing sub on purpose! I guess way more people have an mp3-player than just musicians! ;-) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Too bad that my archos juxebox died on me last year :( Btw, I ran Rockbox on that years ago already.
Did you know that Kjer, Bagder & Zagor of Horizon are members of the Rockbox team, or at least used to be? |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
I wonder if anybody every tried to port reSid to fixed point math (at the cost of precision ofcourse). |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1031 |
Quote: Too bad that my archos juxebox died on me last year :( Btw, I ran Rockbox on that years ago already.
Did you know that Kjer, Bagder & Zagor of Horizon are members of the Rockbox team, or at least used to be?
yes I knew that after I read dk's post ;) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: yes I knew that after I read dk's post ;)
Ah. I didn't read all of his post (was in a hurry), so I kinda missed that part.
Anyway, do you know that it also runs on iPods these days?
And that your name is Burglar?
I'll stop now. |
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WVL
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 885 |
I know.. but 'unfortunately' I've got a Cowon Iaudio M3L and not the M5L... then again I'm very happy with it, except it would rock if it would also play sids.. oh well. |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1568 |
Offtopic-ish: XBox Media Center (XMBC) also plays SID's \o/ |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: Offtopic-ish: XBox Media Center (XMBC) also plays SID's \o/
Didn't know that, niiiiiiiiiice |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
nice project, but I'd prefer some new c64 prods :P ;) |
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Wile Coyote
Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 637 |
Having the whole of HVSC on your mp3-player is impressive.
/pictures a lot of skipping required :D
So far I have gotten most of my favourite Sids down to 6 CD's worth of Wav's, and these Wav's have been put on my Sony Netwoek Walkman NW-MS700. I've never quite made the jump to iPods or Mp3 players.
<img scr="http://journal.mycom.co.jp/news/2002/12/10/17ds.jpg" >
Too cool :) |
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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
Some updates:
I've found out meanwhile that this SID-player isn't based on Libsid, but TinySID (by KB/TOM/Farbrausch and Rainer Sinsch, the latter also did TinySID for PSP and the Rockbox-integration!). That explains it, I was already wondering how surprisingly good libsid sounded compared to resid! ;-D
However, TinySID has problems with some tunes. Some won't play at all, some are too slow, and if the tune has Samples, you HAVE to use the PSID version!
Apparently they have subtune support already integrated (it's on fast forward, each second represents one subtune!) and one major bug is already gone while others are being worked on.. And my suggestion for including Songlenght-DB suport was positively recieved. We're getting there! ;-)
Oh, and Badger of HZ is on the project, too, just like his brother Zagor! ;-) |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Hm, got myself an Iriver H10 today and tried out Rockbox. Have to admit, I'm not too convinced about the sidplayer yet. Might be down to the TinySid engine, but a lot of the tunes don't seem to work (especially from the classic era with the non-standard players at non-standard memory locations).
Guess I'll stick to a selection of mp3 recordings from SOASC= and keep an eye on the news section of Rockbox. |
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Tim
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 467 |
"..not the Shuffle, 2nd/3rd gen Nano, Classic or Touch.."
Bah.. finally some sensible ipod software (god i wish i never bought that piece of crap from Apple) and then it doesn't support 2nd/3rd gen Nano.. just isn't my day today ;) |
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Aegis
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Registered: Jan 2008
Posts: 3 |
I tried to put the whole HVSC on my mp3 player, but the Sansa's filetransfer sucks for masses of files, and after a while it crashed. :( |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 487 |
Moved it here: tinySID player in flash |
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onebitman
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 47 |
rockbox does not support remotes on the gaypod mini :/ |
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FATFrost
Account closed
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 211 |
i have this in my ipod, it's ok but no one ever carried on development to a level that was enjoyable, but it doesn't matter as i have a 160gb ipod classic that accommodates most sids. ;)
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 475 |
i'd really really want this to work on a symbian 3rd edition phone. is there anyone with a bit of understanding of programming who would want to make me happy (software-wise)? :)
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11100 |
donate me such a phone and i'll port it :=P |
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onebitman
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 47 |
rngmnn, have you tried/seen that one? http://www.pygmyprojects.com/scenetone.html |
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 475 |
yep, tried that one out. no more words about the sid emulation though. :) |
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FATFrost
Account closed
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 211 |
eh?
"Scenetone is a "demoscene" player that can play various module formats such as soundtracker, protracker, xm, s3m, etc. and also SID tunes. It is licensed under GPL." |
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algorithm
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 702 |
There is also a sidplayer for the iphone/ipod touch. new version has improvements as well as finally ability to select sid chip type. There is an option to download the entire hvsc via the program itself |
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
it downloads the sids, as you play them.
if you never played galway/rambo, its not downloaded. |
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algorithm
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 702 |
Quote: it downloads the sids, as you play them.
if you never played galway/rambo, its not downloaded.
The new version allows the entire sid collection to be downloaded in the background while using the normal method of downloading when selecting a song |
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WVL
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 885 |
To revive this a bit :
I recently noticed (ok.. i noticed today.) that RockBox is now also supported on the Cowon iAudio M3/M3L! :D So from now on I'm a happy camper with added .ogg, gapless, .flac and .sid and .mod :D
weeehaaaa!
edit : btw.. i can truly say that .sids sound like total crap. ;) |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Quote: There is also a sidplayer for the iphone/ipod touch. new version has improvements as well as finally ability to select sid chip type. There is an option to download the entire hvsc via the program itself
Only just discovered the SidPlay app for iPhone. How cool utterly cool. :) |
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
i got an android phone, and checked out the marketplace and found a sidplayer.
it plays really well, and can play RSIDS which the iphone app cant (is this still the case ?)
i made a short video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dnswyGUMvA |
