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2012-11-02 09:12
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
Fastloader kernal for VICE

Using a vanilla kernal in x64sc is kind of annoying, since loading is slow even with warp mode (I only get 450%) and the lack of f-keys makes loading things like the X2012 gfx and music disks a chore.

So, is there a good replacement kernal with:

• a decent fastloader, at least 10x, and as compatible as possible - just patching LOAD and not leaving crap in the drive afterwards
• F-keys for comfortable DIR and LOAD/RUN
• as few other changes as possible.

I've been using JiffyDOS but a few loaders refuse to start on it, presumably due to the patched drive rom. The F-keys are kinda shitty too. Action Replay is not an option due to the lack of autostart, but I've been considering hacking TFR to perform a KILL before RUN... Before I go hacking it though, anything out there that does what I want already?
2012-11-02 10:30
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11088
EXOS. i would still use AR though, except for a couple of failing autostarts (wth? when did you last need this? =P) its probably more compatible than any patched kernal :=)
2012-11-02 12:03
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
Is there an AR hack that removes the annoying startup menu?
2012-11-02 12:20
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 478
Hold down CBM key (CTRL on PC) while reset. (e.g. CTRL+ALT+R)
2012-11-02 12:31
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11088
for autostarting just use -keybuf to press f7 or f3 or whatever you want :) (or patch the CBM check in the startup screen, should be easy enough)
2012-11-02 13:05
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
Hacked exos a bit to restore sane colors etc, might be what I was looking for. F-keys will need adjusting but it's almost there.

AR/TFR hacking will have to wait. Thanks!
2012-11-02 13:38
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11088
TFR should work just fine with autostarting btw, also with virtual drive enabled etc
2012-11-02 13:52
Perplex

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 254
Quoting Groepaz
for autostarting just use -keybuf to press f7 or f3 or whatever you want :)


How should function keys (and other special keys) be encoded into the -keybuf string?
2012-11-02 14:02
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11088
"\XY" (hex, petsci)
2012-11-02 14:12
Perplex

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 254
Quoting Groepaz
"XY" (hex, petsci)


Thanks, but there seems to be a problem with AR6:

$ x64 -keybuf "\88"

This throws me directly into the freezer, for some reason. I was expecting the fastloader (F7) to be activated. Using "\87" (F5) to go directly to Utilities works fine.
2012-11-02 16:13
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11088
mmmh this used to work for me.... not sure what exactly i did, maybe just "press" some other key (eg space) once or twice first ? :)
2012-11-03 15:17
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1809
x64 -keybuf \\88

try that.
2012-11-03 17:00
Perplex

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 254
$ x64 -keybuf "\20\88"

Result: still waiting for key in AR6 menu

$ x64 -keybuf \\88

Result: enters the AR6 freezer
2012-11-03 18:38
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 885
Some years ago I tweaked an AR6.0 rom to skip through the menu..

http://interstyles.nl/fixedar6.zip

I hope this works for you :)
2012-11-03 21:50
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
Quoting WVL
Some years ago I tweaked an AR6.0 rom to skip through the menu..

http://interstyles.nl/fixedar6.zip

I hope this works for you :)

Cool, but:
CART: could not attach '/Users/pelle/Downloads/FIXEDAR6.CRT'.

2012-11-03 22:03
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3128
vice crt check is more strict on recent vice 2.3.x / 2.4 builds, change the byte at offset 0x13 from 0x20 to 0x40
most of crts out there will need to be patched =)
2012-11-03 22:10
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
Yep, just found it and returned to post about it :)

Works like a treat, thanks!
2012-11-03 23:50
Perplex

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 254
Nice, thanks WVL & iAN!
2012-11-04 10:18
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 885
Hey! I was already wondering myself why those crts didnt work anymore in 2.4... Thanks for the info :D

I just updated the zip file in my website aswell, should work now with vice 2.3 and 2.4.
2012-11-05 09:09
Wisdom

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 90
Here is a version I did some time ago:

http://kilic.org/download/ar6wdm.zip

- Removes startup menu.
- Starts with or without Fastload enabled.
- F4/F6 keys to toggle Fastload on/off.
2012-11-05 14:59
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
Nice, clean and fast startup!
2013-01-21 19:45
Wisdom

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 90
I uploaded a new zip with files updated to work with x64sc:

http://kilic.org/download/ar6wdmsc.zip

Also included is an older version that works with freezer (ALT+Z) key. Normally I don't use freezer, so when I was removing the startup screen I didn't care if freezer function worked correctly. Old zip file from previous post is also updated with this version:

http://kilic.org/download/ar6wdm.zip
2013-01-22 14:20
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
What changed? I've been using the wdm version with x64sc and haven't noticed any problems.
2013-01-22 17:38
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1809
Quote: vice crt check is more strict on recent vice 2.3.x / 2.4 builds, change the byte at offset 0x13 from 0x20 to 0x40
most of crts out there will need to be patched =)


Actually I parsed everything I found on my HD through cartconv and only found a couple of common candidates. _Most_ crts found on the net should work ok. A few bad Action Replays when it came to cart size but thats about it. You all are supposed to use stuff from http://rr.pokefinder.org anyhow :)

PS Perplex: x64sc -keybuf \\88 works for me. Which OS do you use?
2013-01-23 14:58
SIDWAVE
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
I always have the original AR6 installed in VICE, since i got fastload and the monitor.

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