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2015-08-18 19:33
soci

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 473
Formatting disks with faults

Is there a disk formatting tool for 1541 which is able to detect a small faulty location and then it can lay out the sectors so that the fault ends up somewhere in a gap?

I have lots of slightly faulty disks which I don't want to throw out just because there's a small fault on one of the tracks.
 
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2015-08-19 12:22
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
one big problem with this idea is that you dont have a reference point (index signal) so you could shift the track to a defined offset... it'd be tricky to make a formatter that does this (in reasonable time anyway)
2015-08-19 13:46
ThunderBlade

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 75
What is the point of this? Keep using disks that are broken? I'm sure there are enough working disks left - especially with the ton of 1541 Ultimate's being sold, I bet many are ready to donate a few, if needed. :)
2015-08-19 19:25
soci

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 473
Sure, but if I throw them away and get new ones then where's the challenge? ;)

Groepaz: The fault location can be the reference point. Using absolute positioning (e.g with an 1571) would only complicate it.

I think I'll give it a try, this sounds like a fun project ;)
2015-08-20 14:04
soci

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 473
Seems to work. But still a lot to trash ;)
2015-08-21 11:29
ThunderBlade

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 75
A cool challenge in any case.
2015-08-22 21:43
soci

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 473
Less trash now that I've fixed up the algorithm and the weak area detection.

This is what came out of this:
21st Century Floppy Disk Formatter V0.1

Probably not perfect, but it also depends on the disks too. Sometimes only soap and water helps ;)
2015-08-23 08:46
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
And don't validate, right? ;)
2015-08-23 08:52
soci

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 473
You can validate as much as you like. That's only a problem for the BAM method.
2015-08-24 19:40
Zer0-X

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 78
Haven't taken a detailed look of the resulting disk layout yet, but are you locating the error at a sector gap or at the track gap where there's usually plenty of space?
2015-08-25 10:55
soci

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 473
If by track gap you mean the space after the last sector before the first sector comes again, then yes it goes into that bigger gap.
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