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Player Identifier v1.00   [2012]

Released by :
Wilfred Bos

Release Date :
14 November 2012

Type :
Other Platform C64 Tool

AKA :
pi, C64 Music Player Identifier, sid player id, sidid, v1.00

User rating:awaiting 5 votes (2 left)   See votestatistics

Credits :
Code .... Wilfred Bos of HVSC Crew
Ripping .... Cadaver of Covert Bitops
  Ian Coog of HVSC Crew
  Ice00 of Hokuto Force, Ice Team
  Wilfred Bos of HVSC Crew
  Yodelking of Defiers
Test .... Ian Coog of HVSC Crew

Download :
http://csdb.dk/getinternalfile.php/110509/pi_v100.zip (downloads: 558)
http://csdb.dk/getinternalfile.php/149592/sidid.cfg (downloads: 16)

Look for downloads on external sites:
 Pokefinder.org


User Comment
Submitted by Xiny6581 on 17 November 2012
I really like this tool. It saves me lots of work and sometimes guessing of which player was used for a tune. Since I make lots of SID recordings, I also want to document the PlayerID and SID model. Most of the time I can do it my own little way. But sometimes it can be tricky when a composer is using an improved player or a variPlayer. Sometimes I have to spend many hours to depack a song and find out it wasn't made in DMC ;) Thanks for a nice tool. Heh yes now I want a Player depacker for the next version.
User Comment
Submitted by Yogibear on 16 November 2012
Anyway nice tool!
User Comment
Submitted by G-Fellow on 15 November 2012
I sign what CreaMD says and I really love this tool, respect for coding it! We should move the discussion to the forum, but I guess there is nothing to discuss.
User Comment
Submitted by CreaMD on 15 November 2012
You take my comment wrong HVSC guys. It's not critcism of the tool. This tool is important and I don't have anything against it. Absolutely.

I was talking about how I'm going to make it even more anonyomous. That's all. No hidden comments in data, no leaks. Just digtal recording of the sound. As far as composer identification is concerned. In some cases identifying the player/editor narrows the possibilities. How many people actively use DMC5.0 nowadays for example?
User Comment
Submitted by SIDWAVE on 15 November 2012
Identifying a player is the first step, to contact an old composer and ask if its his tune. we have used a tool like this for many years, and f.ex found some old fred gray, david whittaker tunes with it.

its not a composer identifier, so stop that silly talk. its a tool to use, when you need it, and i think you actually only need it when ripping, and dont have a clue what youre looking at..
User Comment
Submitted by G-Fellow on 15 November 2012
ian coog I think you do not understand what CreaMD and I are talking about. The point is that many musicians in the C64 scene use the same player always and when you not know the musician of a tune, but you hear a tune and look than at the player routine than you can guess this tune was to 90% made by musician XYZ. Some musicians have the very own style like Dane, I guess when he not change his style, than everybody knows when a tune is from him.

It is hard to say if a tune is made by Drax or Wiklund, they have nearly the same style. Also some other C64 musicians have nearly the same style and when it comes than to voting, than you vote more for your favourite buddy and not for the one that you more dislike.

Not everybody do this, many are trying to be objective, but I must say it is a interesting idea to have only .mp3-SID files to judge.
User Comment
Submitted by iAN CooG on 15 November 2012
creamd&gfellow: I think you both haven't understood what this tool is for, it's doesn't say who COMPOSED a tune, just the player routine. Knowing a tune is made in JCH or Goattracker, doesn't give a real hint who did it.
User Comment
Submitted by G-Fellow on 15 November 2012
I say YES to all stuff in MP3 during the compo/voting phase in The (C64.sk) SID COMPO !

And when you say this tune must be from G-Fellow, than it proves I have my own style. :P
User Comment
Submitted by CreaMD on 14 November 2012
Existence of this kind of utils is exactly why I want to make next SidCompo having all stuff in MP3 during the compo/voting phase, before the release. ;-)
User Comment
Submitted by iAN CooG on 14 November 2012
Of course full credit for idea should go to Cadaver and his SIDId, which remains open source and in fully portable C.
This is a great improvement in speed over SIDId, Wilfred really knows his stuff when doing optimizations and fast code in Delphi, I tip my hat to him.
User Comment
Submitted by Hermit on 14 November 2012
Yeah, Thats IT! :) Great Work, guys.
I have always been curious which players were used for songs and started a similar experiment in the past on my own but nothing serious came out of it.
Good to see it made by experienced SID & HVSC coders.
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