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DOTY - Compo Invitation   [2013]

DOTY - Compo Invitation Released by :
Axis, Yazoo

Release Date :
3 March 2013

Type :
C64 Invitation

AKA :
Demo of the Year

Website :
http://www.kopacek.de/doty/doty-compo.html

User rating:*********_  9.2/10 (8 votes)   See votestatistics

Credits :
Code .... Axis of Arsenic, Censor Design, Oxyron
Music .... Fanta of Arsenic, Chorus, Oxyron, Plush, Viruz
Graphics .... Yazoo of Arsenic, Censor Design, Oxyron
Idea .... Axis of Arsenic, Censor Design, Oxyron
  Yazoo of Arsenic, Censor Design, Oxyron
Text .... Yazoo of Arsenic, Censor Design, Oxyron
Charset .... Yazoo of Arsenic, Censor Design, Oxyron
  Zenox of Starion


SIDs used in this release :
Coma Light '87(/MUSICIANS/F/Fanta/Coma_Light_87.sid)


Contains information on the following event(s) :
Demo of the Year Competition 2013  this is the doty 2013 event

Download :
http://csdb.dk/getinternalfile.php/114513/doty-compo-invitation.prg (downloads: 744)

Look for downloads on external sites:
 Pokefinder.org


User Comment
Submitted by Motion on 17 March 2013
I loved the original series, and I'm sure I'll enjoy this newly revamp vision.
User Comment
Submitted by Conjuror on 7 March 2013
Quote:
"if you don't wanna see the parts before the final product... well, THEN DON'T FUCKING LOOK! ;)"
that would sure lead to interesting voting results =)


I suspect it will make no difference. /cynic
User Comment
Submitted by Perplex on 6 March 2013
Thanks for bringing this old tradition back, though in a more modern form. It will be interesting to see how this one plays out, for sure! Now to find some spare time to actually participate...
User Comment
Submitted by Axis/Oxyron on 6 March 2013
@tlr: Can remember to having seen this issue with several vice 2.3 versions. But its fixed in the lastest build (r27318). Good job! Love x64sc to hunt grey dots.
User Comment
Submitted by tlr on 5 March 2013
Nice initiative!

x64sc r27318 seems to run the demo just fine. Maybe it is this regression (now fixed) that bites you?
Running bleeding edge nightly builds can never be 100% safe... ;)

EDIT: @Axis: if there is cycle stealing problems in emulation, please post a bug in the bug tracker.
User Comment
Submitted by Cruzer on 5 March 2013
If you wanna be blown away by a huge amount of new demos you haven't seen before, go to a party. This is something different, and after all the music/gfx compos on CSDB I welcome that there's something for coders as well.
User Comment
Submitted by PAL on 5 March 2013
jackasser: that is why I posted this... Maybe one could have a special screen-shot on the parts so that the ones that will not have a look before the demo is released can just not see it stright in the shoot if clicking a new release here on csdb?
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 5 March 2013
"if you don't wanna see the parts before the final product... well, THEN DON'T FUCKING LOOK! ;)"
that would sure lead to interesting voting results =)
User Comment
Submitted by JackAsser on 5 March 2013
Also.. if you don't wanna see the parts before the final product... well, THEN DON'T FUCKING LOOK! ;)
User Comment
Submitted by PAL on 5 March 2013
It is fantastic that this is done Yazoo, just point out the fact that all parts will then be old when released. But it sure is a fun championship to get into the demo.

It is not ment to be so negative because what you do is so possetive, it simply could be even greater is my point. No matter what it will be super-insane-great!
User Comment
Submitted by Cresh on 5 March 2013
I second that. It ruins the wow factor.
User Comment
Submitted by Yazoo on 5 March 2013
so many complains :)

i understand why some ppl dont like it as it is, but plz read some lines below what i have already written about the reasons for doing it this way. maybe (if we or someone else organizes another doty next year or so) we or someone else can do it in another way.

maybe we were all wrong with this, but rules are not negotiable anymore anyways, as the c64 invitation, youtube videos and so on - are wide spread containing the current rules / info.

dont like? dont compete. what else can i say

...do something - and you can do something wrong... do nothing, and you cannot fail ;-)
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 5 March 2013
i agree with tao - i find seeing other peoples entries before the compo actually happens really boring. and i think voting while entries are still being added is completely wrong for a compo too (you get an advantage for releasing early. coding killer part until last minute is a silly idea in this setup)

so since i couldnt care less about the voting, my entry wont be added until a few minutes before deadline.
User Comment
Submitted by Dr.j on 4 March 2013
@Yogibear: i didn't know you were in ATG , they were very cool group back then !
User Comment
Submitted by Yogibear on 4 March 2013
Yes ATG organized it once in 1990. (I was in ATG). Nice to see it's coming back! Neat invitation!
User Comment
Submitted by Didi on 4 March 2013
@grasstust: The difference is, that we don't earn a lot of money with the public votes like they do in TV. ;) Maybe perff might invent a pay-per-vote system which sends money to the CSDb fund.
/edit: Crack Intro Music Compo had 2532 votes overall at deadline. Maybe 5 cents per vote... ;)
User Comment
Submitted by grasstust on 4 March 2013
Great initiative! I think what the stand-alone compos have proven is that actually showing the entries as they appear generates a certain flair, a certain "what? I'm gonna be in this one too, damn it!", urging everyone to draw as more and more entries are released. And ofcourse, as tv has proven, getting the audience involved in the voting makes everything much more interesting... :)
User Comment
Submitted by PAL on 4 March 2013
So cool to bring this back. I love your effort to do this. But I would rather get a new pack of gum than a pack of gum with already chewed pieces in the pack.

But again, it is so cool that you do this... Maybe one could have a special screen-shot on the parts so that the ones that will not have a look before the demo is released can just not see it stright in the shoot if clicking a new release here on csdb?

In the past we sent part to some germans and later on it when released and one did not know where in the demo your part came and if it were there almost... it was really cool.
User Comment
Submitted by dEViLOCk on 4 March 2013
yeaaahhh ^_^
User Comment
Submitted by Killsquad on 4 March 2013
This is a great initiative!
I agree with Tao though. I think it would be cooler, for the rest of us, if you picked out the entries. Then it will be a surprise with all kinds of wonderfull & strange parts for the rest of us. This is a great idea nevertheless. Thanks! :)
User Comment
Submitted by Yazoo on 4 March 2013
Tao: axis and me thought about that. but making it a csdb compo as didi made it with the 3-col logo compo / sid compo seemed to be the better way. because this way the compo generates much more attention, and hopefully attracts more ppl to compete / create something. also the result may be more entries, because ppl hopefully try to beat eachother. thats basically why we have modified the old doty concept - which was invite only - to this kind of competition.
the risk with the old concept, to end with a 2-part doty would be much bigger i think. but i may be wrong

where is light - there will be a shadow.
User Comment
Submitted by Tao on 4 March 2013
Wouldn't it be a lot more fun to have the entries submitted directly to the organisers and have them pick out the entries? Otherwise everyone will already have seen all the entries on CSDb, so the DotY-demo itself will just be a "Seen that..." thing that no one really cares about.
User Comment
Submitted by Flavioweb on 4 March 2013
@Axis: I tested code on a real C64 ("old" pal, ceramic vic chip) and works like a charm. Problems only with X64SC (x64sc 2.4.2 (GTK+ AMD64/x86_64 Linux GCC-4.6.0))
User Comment
Submitted by Axis/Oxyron on 4 March 2013
@Flavio: Had no problems testing this on VICE 2.3/x64sc windows binary. But there can always be problems on the different x64sc versions. The timings for stretched/crunched sprites seem to be wrong in x64sc (The sprites steal too much cycles in the last line). We suffered from the same problem with the cl 13 plasma.
And just discovered a bug on real hardware. Lazy me didnt test the final version there. *grrr*
User Comment
Submitted by SIDWAVE on 4 March 2013
I dont code advanced demos, but i have an offer anyway:

I would like to offer my services as a composer for a demo in this compo.

If you need an experienced composer, write to me! PM here on CSDB.
User Comment
Submitted by Yazoo on 4 March 2013
heh... ok, then the creditz regarding the sprites in this invitation are half-wrong (i made the stars). axis and me thought the spriteset was done by me because we used them sprites alot back in the days :D sry for that

edit: am i blind, or why is it not an option to add creditz for sprites? :)
User Comment
Submitted by JackAsser on 4 March 2013
Right! Zenox!
User Comment
Submitted by Zyron on 4 March 2013
That legendary sprite charset was made by Zenox.
User Comment
Submitted by Cruzer on 4 March 2013
Looks like the good old Zenox sprites from Happy New Year/Starion.
User Comment
Submitted by JackAsser on 4 March 2013
Cool! :) Sprite-origano from last part in Rutig Banan (or extremely similar?!), which we also used in the first part in Time Machine (party version). My bro told me who pixeled them but I've forgotten the name now. Will ask again!

Nice initiative!
User Comment
Submitted by Flavioweb on 4 March 2013
This code isn't working in my x64sc (compiled from source svn version) but work on x64. Only my problem?
User Comment
Submitted by HCL on 4 March 2013
Nice DYSP, must be using line crunch there.. and thus multiplexing at least one sprite. I'm quite in to it you see ;).

So, do demos already released in 2013 count? Or does a pimp like me get into the compo anyway, just like CensorDesign always get into the parties even tough they are sold out ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Yazoo on 4 March 2013
Trash: right... i have modified that "against the law" line as it was pretty unclear (ok, i can obviously only change things on the website, and not in the c64 invitation anymore) ;D
User Comment
Submitted by Trash on 3 March 2013
By "not breaking any laws" do you mean german law or <input country of your choice> law?
User Comment
Submitted by Cruzer on 3 March 2013
Great idea with a revival of this concept, definitely planning to compete! And lovely DYSPing invitro with a super cool logo. Good to see you plan to only use the public votes.
User Comment
Submitted by Bob on 3 March 2013
Case: "looking forward to the results" ???
you guys should compete, and be a part of the result ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Dr.j on 3 March 2013
If i am not wrong ATG group started with DOTY or atleast made a few editios for this compo. great idea guyz!
User Comment
Submitted by Case on 3 March 2013
About time someone brought this back. I remember the originals and they were great, really looking forward to the results.
User Comment
Submitted by Matt on 3 March 2013
Hey DOTY is back that's great!
Lots of great comps recently, hope this one will pull off aswell!
Looking forward to any future demopart!
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