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2009-01-07 15:59
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847
The sid stealing continues! ...

... and this times it's not Timberland, but Frankmusik:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWDLsuPK280&feature=related

Jeff/ViruZ identified at 2:20 that it's his "caste camelot.sid" playing right there in the new release "3 Little Words"!

Frankmus(uck)'s myspace channel: http://www.myspace.com/frankmusik

I'm really ashamed of my people! :/
 
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2009-01-08 03:19
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11372
doesnt really matter. remember the "björk" case... a sample of a single snare hit is enough :)
2009-01-08 05:25
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
I will probably not take it that far in this case, still I wish I had been asked for permission, as that's atleast a more respectable way of doing it. :-)
2009-01-08 06:23
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3055
Quote: I will probably not take it that far in this case, still I wish I had been asked for permission, as that's atleast a more respectable way of doing it. :-)

Amen.
2009-01-08 23:11
Akira

Registered: Oct 2003
Posts: 52
Quote: I will probably not take it that far in this case, still I wish I had been asked for permission, as that's atleast a more respectable way of doing it. :-)

Yeh, man, how fucking HARD is it to put "I sampled this from this person"?? NOT AT ALL. Why can't these people give credit where credit is due? Do they think it's not deserved or what?
2009-01-08 23:39
dalezy

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 476
i wonder .. if .. they're going to sue the lot of us if the covercompo's on? :D

jeff - after all, i for one would be interested if the guy behind frankmusik is actually aware of all that; i mean, him taking bits of your work and that it's currently discussed. :) you never know what strange way loops/samples may go through until they finally meet their new master ..
2009-01-09 08:55
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1647
I give a shit!
2009-01-09 09:34
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3055
Quote: i wonder .. if .. they're going to sue the lot of us if the covercompo's on? :D

jeff - after all, i for one would be interested if the guy behind frankmusik is actually aware of all that; i mean, him taking bits of your work and that it's currently discussed. :) you never know what strange way loops/samples may go through until they finally meet their new master ..


have you ever heard about concept of fair use?

and about that awareness, Goto80 wrote on his blog that MySpace page of the frankmusis dude states that he samples c64.
2009-01-10 14:17
Fanta
Account closed

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 26
there is another sid part in one of frankmusiks tunes at 2:20:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbWjiE63Nl0

the usage of the leadsound is familiar to me (jammer?) but i have no clue if this is ripped from an existing sid or not. maybe someone is able to recognize it... come on guys! =)
2009-01-10 16:07
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3055
This video is not available in your country... wtf?

ok managed to bypass it.. I don't recognize that part. Never heard that before. Maybe Jammer could try to listen ;-)
2009-01-10 22:57
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847
ok... just thought I'd say ignore my idiotic reaction at the beginning of this thread (i.e. when i said "Frankmus(uck)") To be honest, Frankmusik does actually make some nice stuff (thought pop isn't really my favorite genre), but as Jeff says, it would be more generous if he had mentioned Jeff as part of credit to the music in regard of the snippet of the sid tune he used for that ~5-8 seconds. As Frankmusik is still very young (21-22 as far as i'm aware) he probably hadn't been aware of the consequences of using material from a scene that has been around before he was even born. Judging from his style of music, I hardly doubt he is in contact with timberland for that matter and learning that it's "safe" to use someone else's work without permission.

As for the the video Fanta posted... no idea who made the tune, though you'll probably have to check some of the professionals. ;)
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