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2006-10-19 12:48
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
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History Fakers


http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,126692-page,14-c,systems/arti..


c64 not even on the top 25 pcs of all time while trash like trs80 is on it.

appleII is the number one pc while pet was released earlier.


great.

thanks apple. I bloody hate you.
2006-10-19 13:17
Graham
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For some reason "serious" people do not like Commodore and tend to ignore it when doing "history". Same with the profs at my uni. It's a horrible thought to them that it was computer games which made computers big.
2006-10-19 16:27
Devia

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 401
Who the fuck takes pcworld serious anyways?!!?
2006-10-19 17:19
drake
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Posts: 207
..and then to know that a hell of a lot it-ppl had a commodore as first computer
2006-10-19 18:08
Raf

Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 343
many of machines shown in that article aren't very cool actually and additionally their descriptions sucks [were made for lame dumbasess probably] , so who cares?
2006-10-19 18:31
Skylab

Registered: Dec 2005
Posts: 183
Great to see that our lovely machines aren't mentioned... Have you ever said to your 'bread box'; i love this PC????

I did it never because it was and will always be the best Home-Computer...

Wired people all over the world...

Greetz!
Skylab
2006-10-19 21:04
Tao

Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 115
Then again - could computing get any more personal than with a 64? Sure, I like my Thinkpad x60s; it's a neat machine. But I wouldn't miss it if it broke. And I definitely don't dream in terms of demo ideas for anything else than the 64...

The 64 might possibly be not only the best PC, but the *only* real PC.
2006-10-19 23:24
Tim
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Quote: Then again - could computing get any more personal than with a 64? Sure, I like my Thinkpad x60s; it's a neat machine. But I wouldn't miss it if it broke. And I definitely don't dream in terms of demo ideas for anything else than the 64...

The 64 might possibly be not only the best PC, but the *only* real PC.


So true TAO, although that X60 is very nice, the only thing I can fault it on is the brand name Lenovo (IBM should never have sold off their thinkpads).. having said that you hit the nail on the head.. I would never shed a tear for replacing a notebook for a better, younger, thinner, quicker, etc. model..

Of all the series of other c64’s that I’ve collected over the years there’s only one real c64 for me.. the one that I bought brand new and kickstarted my life of endless piracy ;) I will use this machine filled with god knows how many drink spills, stickers, breadcrumbs, cigarette ashes, etc. until it dies.

My own C64 is almost female.. hehe.. Sure I can flirt and admire C65’s, SX64’s, 128s or other cute c64’s.. but I’ll always come back home to my old true love.. besides.. she has the cutest little sid voice of all ;)

Shit.. someone call Dr.Phil for an episode "I Love my C64" :)
2006-10-19 23:42
T.M.R
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Christ, can you imagine a "pop psych" show like that (we have a couple over here, one is hosted by someone who actually knows what she's talking about so if everyone fancies piling over to the UK for it...? =-) about C64 love... some of us'd be getting arrested for lewd behaviour with an 8-bit micro!

Y'know... whilst i appreciate the contributions some machines like the Apple II and the MITS Altair made to home computing, i can't see the point of including the "pretty" PCs and the C64 should have been in there for multiple reasons; because it carried several hardware features, that it had a longer commercial lifespan than any machine in that list and still retains a small but insane... erm, active user base, that it did more to popularise home computing than most other machines (other machines made major headway, but not in as many different markets) and because there's just so damned many of 'em out there.
2006-10-20 00:30
Stryyker

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 466
A simpler test would have been to ask plenty of older generations how many had first used a C64. With its good sales for a long period it is a significant part of comuting history. Some people in various IT industries built a name for themselves with C64 from Xample, JT, Rob Hubbard, Charles Deenen, and there could be a massive list. It was the 8 bit computer used for games through to productivity. Even Linus Torvalds has mentioned it in interviews.
2006-10-20 00:44
Tim
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Tmr.. well obviously it’s the games history of the c64 that causes historians to neglect the c64 from ‘p.c.’ status. Fair or not? Who knows.. I only knew very few companies actually using the c64 as a real computer so in that perspective there is a good point. (although I might not like to admit that)

In gaming history, the c64 is also often skipped. Have you ever heard people saying they are from the Nintendo or Atari generation? Sigh.. I hate those annoying game players, reminds me of fights with friends when I was young whether or not to view a crack intro or hit space immediately to start a game. (and since I provided most of them with games, if I was there they were forced to read the scroller.. hehe).

Tja.. and that list is actually quite arguable even if you’d consider only ‘real’ PC’s.. a poor man’s way of making a top 25 list at best.






 
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