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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5076 |
Event id #2065 : 3-Color-Logo Competition 2013
"Submitted by dandee [PM] on 7 March 2013
Bad news. Sorry to say, but Didi has been kicked out of CSDB and he asked me to tell you that the compo is canceled, as he can't take care from the outside. The reasons for kicking him are kind of a mystery to us and have not been told. Ask the admins of this very site for reasons. Sad to see another active guy, that actually contributed a lot (specially to growth of this archive) been thrown out. Sorry to all you guys who did a fabulous job and put much efforts into this, but under this circumstances you probably will understand that it does not make much sense to carry on with this compo. Never really been active here, but I guess I will deactivate my account as well. Take care..."
So, what happened here? |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4702 |
Didi will probably be back. He is not stupid, nor evil. Regarding the compo I believe people got it wrong: compos can be organized, and has been organized, without CSDb. CSDb is just mirroring the scene, thus the compo. It's no problem organizing the compo "outside" of CSDb. Threatening to shut down the compo is just a way to become a martyr (quite successful it seems), I'm afraid. |
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
Quote: Quote:In the reality if you invite peeps to your living room party and set some silly rules and throw out some renitent mate who enjoys the friendships of many - that can piss off the majority of the guests and you may be thrown out of your own party in a sec. You would never risk that face-to-face :)
invalid reasoning. that only applies if your friends consist of a bunch of retards that would back up someone who choose to piss off the one who invited them to a party. i sure would "risk" it face-to-face, as i dont need those retards to be my friends at all. (and as a party organizer of various scene parties, i have been at this point a few times)
Invalid reasoning :) In this actual living room, most of the guests are those retards and may not be your friends, that may easily happen if you organise a really big party where your friends' friends are allowed to be invited and your friend's friend is not necessarily your friend, too. And there are some retards who call you a retard, but since Einstein we know that everything is relative. So in the reality there is no clue if one of the guests is not a f'n martial terminator who zips you in a cardboard box and puts in the fridge until the party ends :) |
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
@Celtic: It seems to be a fair solution to me. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293 |
we were speaking about someones living room, remember?
and as i happen to have organized a few 1000+ people parties aswell i can tell you for certain: then it is even less of a problem. one phonecall and 1 minute later whoever goes berzerk will be removed. you are free to try what happens if you dont respect "no smoking" inside the revision hall. bring all your friends if you think that would change anything. |
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
Quote: we were speaking about someones living room, remember?
and as i happen to have organized a few 1000+ people parties aswell i can tell you for certain: then it is even less of a problem. one phonecall and 1 minute later whoever goes berzerk will be removed. you are free to try what happens if you dont respect "no smoking" inside the revision hall. bring all your friends if you think that would change anything.
The whole case just reminds me of a certain '90s home party where the homelord was tied and hung onto his balcony until the morning :)
Wanna be our tour manager? You can do that in 600-1000 visitor clubs and every night is a hand-to-hand fight :)
Apart from joke, metal scene is quite alright I guess, they tend to behave. Never needed any action and we had 15 or so years on the road. |
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Wisdom
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 90 |
As long as that "living room" analogy goes, it falls short when we consider that this is a digital medium and "appropriate" measures can be taken to avoid whatever happened, instead of ruining the whole party.
Just limit the stuff he can do that you consider somehow harmful (such as changing titles or whatever it is) and let him in. And this should be a standard practice about somebody regularly opposing the rules (practically). Verbal opposition can always be discussed anyway.
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
Quote: The whole case just reminds me of a certain '90s home party where the homelord was tied and hung onto his balcony until the morning :)
Wanna be our tour manager? You can do that in 600-1000 visitor clubs and every night is a hand-to-hand fight :)
Apart from joke, metal scene is quite alright I guess, they tend to behave. Never needed any action and we had 15 or so years on the road.
Okay I'll go and wear a F'n smoking next time. So what? :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293 |
Quote:Just limit the stuff he can do that you consider somehow harmful (such as changing titles or whatever it is) and let him in. And this should be a standard practice about somebody regularly opposing the rules (practically).
i totally agree. guess what kind of features i have been requesting from perff for years. |
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Digger
Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 423 |
Haha pointless waste of time reading all this crap.
Whatever Dodi had done, his idea for the logo competition has spawned 80 (!) logo productions within a frame of a few weeks what has never been seen before (correct me if I am wrong).
Considering the fact CSDB is funded publicly there should be a board of directors ;-) But sadly, it comes back to the old "who has the power" statement.
Seriously I couldn't care less about what Didi and "the admins" had clashed about but I do care about this platform.
So, just keep submitting the hot stuff guys, the good will always win in the end, according to the law of karma.
The compo won't be cancelled as long as you keep contributing! |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5076 |
csdb may be not democratic, but it still has to be follow certain rules so the community remains, how will the site running without the community donating and sorting the DB and living in here? and I guess today it's much easyer to create a site like this than the time CSDB was created. The site should be redone from scratch anyway I guess, its entangled in old php spaghetti afaik. just my 2 cents. |
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