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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5076 |
Release id #47904 : Joe Gunn Preview
Now what was the fucking idea with releasing this? Showing your packer using, cruncher and introlinking skills? Triad was the name for quality for me. Now Triad equals a bunch of fucking lamers not being able to do anything but put intros in front of non protected games, games that are not even finished, games that are made for fun, and for free. You didnt even needed a first supplier, just downloaded it added an intro... for what fucking reason?
Stop being lame and releasing shite under the triad label. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5076 |
Jazzcat, you're completely free to call me whatever you want, however that does only show your primitive arrogancy and lack of arguments. In fact there's _N_O_ valid arguments besides ripping of a c64 eunthasiast's free game prv. In the same manner I could have started introlink Triad demos. Can you imagine the reactions to such an act? I bet you can. |
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yago
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 332 |
Those people who attack the crackers i want to point at one thing..
Oswald started this thread, with the first sentence containing "fucking" and the last sentence containing "lame".
And now everybody whines if they talk back.
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5076 |
Yago, thats a valid point indeed. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3038 |
Quote: Those people who attack the crackers i want to point at one thing..
Oswald started this thread, with the first sentence containing "fucking" and the last sentence containing "lame".
And now everybody whines if they talk back.
I think both Oswald and Jazzcat attempted to provide some arguments. It's on individuals if they accept arguments like: "you don't understand", "this was always been like that" etc. or are more biased towards something that is generally considered "newbie whining". Pointing out the vulgar intensifiers and all other folklore around is not the topic of this dicussion. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5076 |
let me sum up my point. In my eyes this is c64 enthusiasts ripping off c64 enthusiasts. This is the tradition of the cracker scene? I hope not. |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Ok.. what's your point?. It's not like anybody's stealing anything from anyone. I can't see the harm in this, best case is that an overlooked game get's some deserved attention. Worst case is that nothing happends. |
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The Ignorance
Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 85 |
Ok. Next thread should be the dividing of all C-64
gamecoders from 1982-2007 into c-64 enthusiasts and
people who did their work and earned money with it.
As we could judge then which "cracking" was good and
which NOT.
I would have understood more a point in not releasing such new sold games like STRANDED. Who cares about this preview?
And solely the author could maybe care. And I still think it's more than good for him in this case. He got more attention for his game as he would have got with his own homepage.
I think Jazzcat's words are a but harsh, but still Oswald started it and I read nearly everyday and everywhere the great experience and knowledge of OSWALDBOGAR...
All in all I miss the respect for traditions which started the whole scene and especially the demo-scene.
The best people criticizing others are for sure disksleeve-
releasers or mag-editors. They are the wisest men.
But better go on talking about introlinking new unsold previews than fighting against real bullshit.
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Sorry if I sounded a bit harsh but Yago's point comes to mind.
Regarding intro linking demos. That's comparing oranges to apples and has no relevance here.
I've said my piece regarding the intro-linking of a preview (released or not). A real shame that the new generation cannot tolerate certain traditions or just ignore them in peace. Maybe if I go walking through their woods creating some noise I might awaken some sleeping giants also? :) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5076 |
jazzcat, right, lets compare apples and oranges. lets translate our discussion to them. You say stealing apples is right because thats a tradition, and stealing oranges is bad since thats not a tradition. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5076 |
laxity, no problem here? right, from now on please send your tunes before release to me so I can put a nice RSC intro in front of them. thanx in advance.
or maybe it is possible to bring something into someones attention without putting an intro in front of it ?
or is it that if the crackscene could do it they would even introlink the cowshit they find aside the roads?
the crackscene is striving for attention and they're using such ways to propagate their labels that takes laughably little effort and using someone elses prod ? A little sidenote, Triad even failed to put out the latest prv as Endurion stated in the comments. That shows how much time they have invested into it.
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