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2015-06-09 21:42
Shadow
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IRQ-loader toolchain for KickAss/Windows?

So, the one and only time I tried making an IRQ-loading demo I swore I would never, ever try that again.
Now I guess the memory has faded enough that I'm perhaps starting to reconsider! :)

Back then I used Dreamload and Exomizer, however putting it together was a complete pain in the ass.
I don't recall exactly what the trouble was, but I think it was the fact that the de-exomizer needed to point to the end of the packed data, which meant I had to compile the parts I wanted to load, exomize them, manually note the lengths, and then enter that length in another source where I had the general part-loader as indata to the deexomizer. Every little change meant redoing that procedure since the packed length always differed a bit.

Has anyone some more plug-and-play-ready solutions? I know there is lft's Spindle system, but that seems a bit too specific in the way you have to do things, and also kind of Linux-centric.

I would prefer working from Windows and using KickAssembler.
 
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2015-06-11 20:28
chatGPZ

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burglar: actually i did - and it sucked even betterer than the existing alternatives (taboos) ... i doubt anyone would want to see it =)
2015-06-11 20:49
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
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Quoting Groepaz
i wonder how many more years it'll take until those tools are available in a proper repository :) i'd even submit the changes/fixes i made locally :)
I think you've just answered your implicit question yourself :D
2015-06-11 20:51
chatGPZ

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perhaps i should just push my local repo to github and hijack this... =P
2015-06-12 05:06
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
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Quote: Quoting Flavioweb
I don't know if there are other sources for download
My loader came with an incarnation of cc1541 since day one. A quick check using the validate command suggested it generates the BAM just fine, at least with the last officially released version (v146).


/nitpick

on day one your loaders came in native c64 turbo ass src without cc1541 O:-)

/nitpick
2015-06-12 07:11
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
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Quoting Oswald
on day one your loaders came in native c64 turbo ass src without cc1541
Yes, the other loaders before the current one. They're somewhat related but different projects. I meant day one of the current loader.
2015-06-12 17:08
Pantaloon

Registered: Aug 2003
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Krill+Doynax is uber! and very easy to use, i wouldn't change my setup unless some other setup did add alot of benefits, which they don't. For the actual linking i use a simple framework and a custom "make" script written in ..... VBS :)
2015-06-12 23:24
raven
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HCL, is your loader still failing on 1571 drives?

EOD is not working on my 128D due to loader issues, cant remember if I tried any of your later demos on 1571.
2015-06-13 07:17
Oswald

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Quote: Krill+Doynax is uber! and very easy to use, i wouldn't change my setup unless some other setup did add alot of benefits, which they don't. For the actual linking i use a simple framework and a custom "make" script written in ..... VBS :)

yeah, i often feel that some guys overdo it, a very basic makefile or even a .bat should be enough, on todays pc's it creates a d64 in a few seconds all dependencies recompiled or not.
2015-06-13 10:40
Bitbreaker

Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 498
Quoting Oswald
yeah, i often feel that some guys overdo it, a very basic makefile or even a .bat should be enough, on todays pc's it creates a d64 in a few seconds all dependencies recompiled or not.


As well as hot glue and polyurethane foam do suffice when constructing things ...
2015-06-13 10:59
HCL

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 716
@Raven: Yes my loader worx fine on 1571, EoD still has problems, as i don't care to re-link old demos as soon as i update my loader.. :P.. Perhaps i should (?)..

128dcr still needs extra care, by adding that extra cycle in the transfer loop.. i guess noone but Krill actually did his homework properly there..
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