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Motley
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 10 |
COMPO: BORDERLINE 2021 COMPO
COMPO: DEMOS IN BORDERS ONLY
Borderline 2021 Compo
- Stock C64 Category (NORMAL)
- REU C64 Category (REU BASED)
Competition Rules:
* All visual effects must be contained inside The BORDERS ONLY.
* MAINSCREEN can be in any, ONE color ONLY.
* REU is allowed.
* ALL REU entries will be put in a special REU BORDER Category.
May the best one win in each category.
Best seasonal greetings from
Motley/F4CG/STARZ, Qdor/FLT and Jackasser/BOOZE DESIGN |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2825 |
Quoting RaistlinDoes the border need to be actually visible - or is it allowed to have a single colour for the whole screen+border?
Asking for a friend. Quoting JackAsserThat's ok but a bit boring imo. Wasn't this explicitly ruled out long ago?
Quoting JackAsserAnd taking Groepaz’ advice:
RULE ADDENDUM: center area must be of a different color than the border. I can imagine timing can be tricky so a few lines or pixels extra or less of the center area is ok. But it should by no mistake look like the regular border. |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 549 |
"a few lines or pixels extra or less of the center area is ok"
.. this one I don't understand. Rules are rules, right? We can all save screenshots from VICE and compare our "fake border" to VICE's border, after all, can't we..? Just set the screen to 38 or 40 columns, 24 or 25 rows, take a snapshot from VICE - and recreate the exact border appearance in your demo part? |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2825 |
Quoting Raistlin"a few lines or pixels extra or less of the center area is ok"
.. this one I don't understand. Rules are rules, right? We can all save screenshots from VICE and compare our "fake border" to VICE's border, after all, can't we..? Just set the screen to 38 or 40 columns, 24 or 25 rows, take a snapshot from VICE - and recreate the exact border appearance in your demo part? This is to address minor visual differences when "simulating" the screen+border duality, i believe.
Recreating the exact screen position can be prohibitively tricky or downright impossible.
E.g., think of raster splits to switch background colour twice a frame, which may produce grey dots. Or the fact that a write to $d016 to open the sideborder must happen exactly one cycle before the sideborder, and prevents you from writing to any colour register in that region. |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1987 |
Quote: Quoting Raistlin"a few lines or pixels extra or less of the center area is ok"
.. this one I don't understand. Rules are rules, right? We can all save screenshots from VICE and compare our "fake border" to VICE's border, after all, can't we..? Just set the screen to 38 or 40 columns, 24 or 25 rows, take a snapshot from VICE - and recreate the exact border appearance in your demo part? This is to address minor visual differences when "simulating" the screen+border duality, i believe.
Recreating the exact screen position can be prohibitively tricky or downright impossible.
E.g., think of raster splits to switch background colour twice a frame, which may produce grey dots. Or the fact that a write to $d016 to open the sideborder must happen exactly one cycle before the sideborder, and prevents you from writing to any colour register in that region.
Exactly this. I know how hard that can be and downright impossible, so better to relax that rule to get nicer entries. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11100 |
Just disqualify all entries that doesnt have the border at the exactly right pixels in the screenshot. Some ppl around here may assist you with that :) |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1987 |
Quote: Just disqualify all entries that doesnt have the border at the exactly right pixels in the screenshot. Some ppl around here may assist you with that :)
Hahaha! :) |
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itch
Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 23 |
Hi, i have a mini demo! .. I cant upload it because the page is locked? |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1987 |
Quote: Hi, i have a mini demo! .. I cant upload it because the page is locked?
You shouldn't update that page. Just create a new release, then choose this compo as release compo and it will automagically be added to the page. |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1987 |
Due to the big overlap in time with the sprites only compo and due the the coding difficulties in this one, we've extended the deadline one month. |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1987 |
Rastabah's entry is an edge case but approved. This is exacly why I relaxed the border rules. |
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