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2018-05-20 12:20
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8949
Release id #164858 : VICE 3.2

So, finally, we pushed it out. The GTK3 port isn't 100% done yet, but usable enough for testing it. It has a couple known issues and open ends - which are listed here: http://vice-emu.pokefinder.org/index.php/Todo#GTK3_UI - grab experimental binaries here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/vice-emu/files/experimental%20..

Due to the massive amount of features, we need help with testing the damn thing, especially on platforms other than linux.

It would also be great if those who offered to set up nightly builds for OSX would step up and do it :)
 
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2018-06-12 17:48
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8949
did you report a bug with a testcase?

the one ridiculous thing with those reSID bugs is... that a bunch of people prefer whining (a lot) over doing anything that might help to fix them. guess what will happen.
2018-06-13 13:23
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 797
I'm not able to help unless I know thoroughly your methodology and points of reference in emulating specific parameters of SID ;)
2018-06-13 14:31
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 195
Quote: I'm not able to help unless I know thoroughly your methodology and points of reference in emulating specific parameters of SID ;)

At least it would help if you specify a list of tunes where the problem is clearly audible. The more tunes the better so the problem can be identified more easily.
2018-06-13 19:25
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8949
indeed. for example it would help a lot to have a bunch of standalone test tunes that show the problem. or you could even look through the resid updates and tell what revision introduced the problem: https://sourceforge.net/projects/vice-emu/files/old-versions/
2018-06-14 01:36
Compyx

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 416
See this post WANTED: older (Windows) VICE builds for details on ReSID commits that actually changed things in the SID emulation.

Some of the WinVICE builds in the dir groapaz mentioned will not be the exact revision due to trunk breakage. So some revisions in the old-versions dir may be a few commits ahead, or I backported some code to get as close to the ReSID commit revision as possible. I didn't touch the ReSID code however.
2018-11-26 14:53
xIII

Registered: Nov 2008
Posts: 180
Is there an build I can actually use on my Windows 10 64 bit PC ?
I don't know anything about makefiles and stuff like that... :(
2018-11-26 14:57
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8949
use the nightly builds from vice.pokefinder.org

(also nice to see that in almost 6 months noone bothered to actually help with those filters. guess its not quite that important then afterall)
2018-11-26 15:31
dano

Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 167
Don't know that those values are actually there for, but if i turned that filter bias up to like 2100 from -3000 it sounded way way better on tunes like "loopin" from MCH.

Can't help you with this C thing either. I just know that Vice2.x sounded better, and tools like Sidplay2.6w do too, which are pretty dated. So it seemed to worked some time ago. Who broke it shall fix it again.

Besides that i think everybody who uses 3.2 would prefer a proper sounding Vice again. And if you and the other devs don't care aswell, people will just stick with Vice versions that worked for them.
2018-11-26 15:45
xIII

Registered: Nov 2008
Posts: 180
Quote: use the nightly builds from vice.pokefinder.org

(also nice to see that in almost 6 months noone bothered to actually help with those filters. guess its not quite that important then afterall)


thx
2018-11-26 15:57
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8949
dano: i dont know what gives you the idea that we dont care. infact we spent a ridiculous amount of effort into fixing it in the last months (look on the bugtracker). however, when ppl (at least here) prefer whining over helping (and how has been told right here, it doesnt require C, it doesnt require compiling, it doesnt require understanding reSID, it only requires a bit of effort) then well... dont expect anything. the emulation _has significantly improved_ in the past few versions (look at the test programs) - however, regressions are normal and obviously need fixing. and that can only be done if ppl who think something is wrong actually tell *exactly* what the problem is *and how to reproduce it*. if you dont bother spending time on this. oh well. use 2.4 for all i care.
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