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2018-08-02 23:35
hedning

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Release id #166930 : Yoomp!64 +3PD

Moved the discussion to the place for discussions. :)

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Submitted by hedning [PM] on 2 August 2018
Backup board is invoked if one of the main boards is down during the whole 24h. How would it make sense otherwise? If Reflections was down one hour 03 in the morning just when you tried to upload your crack, the rest of the groups wouldn't notice, and lose just because one board was down for some time during the 24h. 24h rule must mean 24h. If one board is gone for 24h, the backup board goes into effect. That is logical to me. Especially as the race isn't over until 24h have passed.

If two or three (our four?) boards all have hickups during the 24h you mean there are no boards to be counted? Your view of the rules does not make sense. I will count the boards and the releases after 24h have passed. That will show who won the race.

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Submitted by Jazzcat [PM] on 2 August 2018
We were first on all boards and sites initially. During that time both Antidote and The Hidden were down, according to the rules, the backup site RapidFire is then invoked and we were first there (and Reflections) thus we were first on the majority of boards using the 24 hour rule. Regards. Note: you cannot re-invoke downed boards. When they are down, backup is in play.

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Submitted by hedning [PM] on 2 August 2018
Antidote and The Hidden were down for some time, but came up within the counted 24h when we tried to upload our crack, and we were able to be first on both. We also went with Reflections and the backup BBS Rapidfire, even if the latter is a bit redundant, as we already were first on 2 out of 3 counted boards within the counted 24h. Cheers!
 
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2018-08-04 15:39
Tim
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:) decisions and csdb used in one sentence..

what's next, you'll use changes and implemented? :D
2018-08-04 15:44
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11100
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you'll use changes and implemented?

that not normal method
2018-08-05 21:00
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
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Apart from the GP version NOT being the first release (first on the majority of counted boards by several hours) there is another point that is obvious to some.

The GP version is based on a PREVIEW of the game. The files MAIN, ESQ and MNU are clearly from the game beta version and NOT the final release of the game. With this in mind, the GP version should be marked as a preview.

If anyone wants further evidence of this please drop me a PM.
2018-08-06 12:26
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
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all the players in the game, except Fairlight, feel the same about keeping the BBS tradition.

and Mayday!

... not that we matter a lot with our fistful of cracks each year most of which are jewel versions of golden oldies anyway, so that we're not into first release races (anymore! due to some lame experiences with BBSes being down when we tried to upload and once they were online again other group's version we're already up...) normally
2018-08-06 12:49
Tim
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Quote: Quote:
all the players in the game, except Fairlight, feel the same about keeping the BBS tradition.

and Mayday!

... not that we matter a lot with our fistful of cracks each year most of which are jewel versions of golden oldies anyway, so that we're not into first release races (anymore! due to some lame experiences with BBSes being down when we tried to upload and once they were online again other group's version we're already up...) normally


@TheRyk,

Actually I would be very happy to see you guys back in the game fighting for points, but by not participating at all doesn't make Mayday a player that is objecting the way we count points.
2018-08-06 12:52
Tim
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Quote: Apart from the GP version NOT being the first release (first on the majority of counted boards by several hours) there is another point that is obvious to some.

The GP version is based on a PREVIEW of the game. The files MAIN, ESQ and MNU are clearly from the game beta version and NOT the final release of the game. With this in mind, the GP version should be marked as a preview.

If anyone wants further evidence of this please drop me a PM.


oh that spices things up.. I'll grab some popcorn :)
2018-08-06 13:09
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11100
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but by not participating at all doesn't make Mayday a player that is objecting the way we count points.

that makes no sense. they DO release cracks afterall.

someone might just start a list that counts other places and ignores the BBSs, then both sides can point fingers at the other =P
2018-08-06 15:35
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4586
Quote: Apart from the GP version NOT being the first release (first on the majority of counted boards by several hours) there is another point that is obvious to some.

The GP version is based on a PREVIEW of the game. The files MAIN, ESQ and MNU are clearly from the game beta version and NOT the final release of the game. With this in mind, the GP version should be marked as a preview.

If anyone wants further evidence of this please drop me a PM.


Where is the preview you're referring to and how does it differ from the final version?
2018-08-06 15:39
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
Jazzcat already told what:
"The files MAIN, ESQ and MNU are clearly from the game beta version"
The GP version uses pre-final version files, differing in small pieces of code which had bugfixed in the final downloadable from itch.io, which is the version ONS used to make their rel.
2018-08-06 15:41
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11100
the preview wasnt public, whoever made that crack should know where the files came from :)
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