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2018-08-02 23:35

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Release id #166930 : Yoomp!64 +3PD

Moved the discussion to the place for discussions. :)

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Submitted by hedning [PM] on 2 August 2018
Backup board is invoked if one of the main boards is down during the whole 24h. How would it make sense otherwise? If Reflections was down one hour 03 in the morning just when you tried to upload your crack, the rest of the groups wouldn't notice, and lose just because one board was down for some time during the 24h. 24h rule must mean 24h. If one board is gone for 24h, the backup board goes into effect. That is logical to me. Especially as the race isn't over until 24h have passed.

If two or three (our four?) boards all have hickups during the 24h you mean there are no boards to be counted? Your view of the rules does not make sense. I will count the boards and the releases after 24h have passed. That will show who won the race.

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Submitted by Jazzcat [PM] on 2 August 2018
We were first on all boards and sites initially. During that time both Antidote and The Hidden were down, according to the rules, the backup site RapidFire is then invoked and we were first there (and Reflections) thus we were first on the majority of boards using the 24 hour rule. Regards. Note: you cannot re-invoke downed boards. When they are down, backup is in play.

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Submitted by hedning [PM] on 2 August 2018
Antidote and The Hidden were down for some time, but came up within the counted 24h when we tried to upload our crack, and we were able to be first on both. We also went with Reflections and the backup BBS Rapidfire, even if the latter is a bit redundant, as we already were first on 2 out of 3 counted boards within the counted 24h. Cheers!
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2018-08-06 17:58

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Quote: Jazzcat already told what:
"The files MAIN, ESQ and MNU are clearly from the game beta version"
The GP version uses pre-final version files, differing in small pieces of code which had bugfixed in the final downloadable from itch.io, which is the version ONS used to make their rel.

Yeah, I read that, but he still fails to explain how the game differs.
2018-08-06 19:45

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 463
Oh hang on, just to make sure when you say "you think"..
..not my (teams) rules, we are just playing the game and having a good time.. at best giving a reply to proposed changes.

And I'm guessing you mean Rent-A-Cop Reloaded +5PD ?
in which case sure.. I'd say it will likely get points (and therefor be a valid first release), but because rules are followed.
- Reflections was uploaded by Eaglewing.
- Antidote was uploaded by Dslman.

But if you want to be sure -> ask Hedning/Jazzcat, their mags determine if it's a first release or not.

I did no such thing as warping a single word Ian.
Your choice of words seemed endearingly naive, but after response rather well chosen afterall.

Lolz :)
Seriously though, I've said before we would shift more manpower to quality releases, if there would be a measured competition.
That said, satisfied and proud of our 2018 line up so far which has been pretty well balanced.
2018-08-06 20:24

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I've said before we would shift more manpower to quality releases, if there would be a measured competition

just like i said. cute.
2018-08-06 20:33

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As mentioned, will PM the details (so send me a PM with your email for those interested).
2018-08-06 20:40

Registered: Dec 2001
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it will likely get points (and therefor be a valid first release)

oh i didnt see that - cute again. as said, flawed logic.
their mags determine if it's a first release or not

again - flawed logic. the mags determine if its a first release _by their rules_. which may or may not matter elsewhere.

there have been plenty first releases in the past that were completely ignored by those mags.
2018-08-06 20:57

Registered: Feb 2002
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Guys... The current definition of first release is determined by those still caring for it. End of story. If people want to do their own thing, create their own pages, rules or whatever... FANTASTIC! Now, time for a coffee!
2018-08-06 21:16

Registered: Dec 2001
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most others already created their own "rules" - the first release is the "first release". end of story indeed :=)

that said, the original problem - ie how it is determined what csdb considers a first release - is still yet to be solved and a rule to be set up. until then - see above =)
2018-08-06 21:25

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 961
Groepaz, sure, it is still to be resolved. But then, if there is different rules, different mags, different iterations of the rules as new generations of sceners try to influence change; confusion. The first release flag should be removed from this database.
2018-08-06 21:44

Registered: Dec 2001
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or it could be defined as what it is: the first release :)
2018-08-06 21:46

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 961
Yes, the other option is to keep the tag and to define it as who is first on this DB. It would need to be a bit clearer though, perhaps: "CSDb 1st" or "CSDb First Upload" :D
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