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2019-04-23 22:51
O'Dog

Registered: Mar 2017
Posts: 10
Release id #177094 : Panzer +

This release is not less complete than the version without pic (Panzer +) because the game release post (Panzer) contains both versions and this time even labels the tape version as bonus.

There has been a similar case with Paranoids +2 where we accepted the Excess first release without the extras as the version without them was also included in the game release post (Paranoids). That's just fair play to accept if you lost a race.
2019-04-23 22:57
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2973
This is not a topic for CSDb. It's something for the mags to discuss.

Also: The tag "First release" should not be used to claim a first release. It's supposed to mirror what is considered a first release, and CSDb or you cannot decide this. It's up to the mags monitoring the fight in question. We mods are currently discussing changing the tag, as it has been abused quite often.
2019-04-23 23:54
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 2811
Yep, everyone claims first rel, but there can be only ONE 1st rel. make up your minds while it lasts, I'm all for removing that ridiculously abused flag from here. For now removed the 1st rel flag from both. Now decide which is 1st.
Also, these rushed releases are getting ridiculous aswell. You guys should all be ashamed of yourselves.
2019-04-24 01:35
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1002
Please summarise the 3 releases for review.
2019-04-24 10:11
St0rmfr0nt

Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 25
For us in Excess our point of view is that both releases (Laxity & ours) are counted firsties. As we get on paranoids the points (without Pic), it would be fair that this time laxity get the points and we probably 0 points for the firstie of the tape version. Even if it's extended.
2019-04-24 10:33
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 392
Would be fine this way. Extra points for extended version are usually only awarded if the extensions are in the game itself. There are various examples where it was handled this way.
2019-04-24 11:00
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2973
As I said. This might not be the place to discuss it. But it might be needed to make the rules a bit more clear on this. I would like to promote the most complete release, if two releases of the same game pops up at the same 24h.

Any alteration from the original game should disqualify the first release, really. Missing stuff, changes on the game itself, etc. But that would need addition to the rules.

Check your e-mail btw. There is already a discussion going on about another issue, and no answers from you guys.
2019-04-24 11:47
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1002
Quote: Would be fine this way. Extra points for extended version are usually only awarded if the extensions are in the game itself. There are various examples where it was handled this way.

agree on this. so mention of excess version as first too, but 0 pts as mentioned.
2019-04-24 16:18
The Communist

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 485
Quote: This is not a topic for CSDb. It's something for the mags to discuss.

Also: The tag "First release" should not be used to claim a first release. It's supposed to mirror what is considered a first release, and CSDb or you cannot decide this. It's up to the mags monitoring the fight in question. We mods are currently discussing changing the tag, as it has been abused quite often.


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