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2020-05-04 01:19
Flex

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 82
Handle id #3502 : Sam

I've been studying the Finnish scene-years 85-89 for some time now (reading tons of scrolltexts and making notes) and I noticed that there are two different Sams that has been mixed up pretty bad here.

Sam / Point-X and Sam / Swapping With Amazing Programs are 2 different persons.

Sam (Sami M.) from Point-X later on (08/1988) joined Axion 1999 and then (early 1989) Browbeat . He followed pretty much the same path as his Point-X groupmate Dr.Code . They both lived in Kirkkonummi, Finland.

Sam (Samuli K.) from SWAP (originated from Nuutajärvi, Finland) later on (05-06/1989) joined Browbeat and changed his handle to Zarex (most likely because there was one Sam already) and then (around 08-09/1989) he joined Beyond Force and changed his handle back to Sam.

This is a real mess at CSDb at the moment. It will get even messier if I start making changes... :-)
2020-05-05 19:11
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 2847
I would start creating a different Sam_PointX and rename current one into Sam_SWAP, so you can easily pick up the correct one while fixing entries, and start correcting the entries which don't belong to Sam_SWAP changing the credits to Sam_PointX.
Then fix the group of membership of both, adding the years of join/leave.
At the end both can be renamed to Sam.
2020-05-06 22:34
Flex

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 82
Ok, this is a future job to do (if anyone won't do it before me)... I'll go on with my scene-studies for the moment.
2020-05-12 09:50
Sam

Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 13
Flex, you are correct about the "two Sams", the short period in Browbeat for me with the different handle mixed up things.

I have to further complicate things for you: there was also "Mr.Sam" in Beyond Force, who is still another Sam. We co-existed in peace in Beyond. Mr.Sam did mostly graphics, and I have some of his logos credited to me, such as Atrix Logo 1 (notice "Mr.Sam" in the screenshot).
2020-05-12 09:54
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2288
Great info. But please fix incorrect credits when you see them. I've changed it to Mr.Sam in that entry now.
2021-02-23 02:57
Flex

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 82
All cleared up in the database now.

All Sams in right places and credits should be there where credit is due. Also managed to dig up more history for Point-X Sam .
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