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2020-11-03 16:14
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Event id #3002 : Filterless Single Channel Compo 2020

' -$x0, $x1, $x2, and $x3 are the only waveforms allowed.'

Do these x'es indicate that only these effects can be utilized but I can choose any waveform I want? :) So far it looks like any wavofm with gate and sync only possible - which doesn't make any sense with one voice :D
2020-11-03 17:14
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1378
Well, sync would still be within the rules as I understand them if you are only setting frequency but not waveform+gate for the linked voice…
2020-11-03 17:19
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
I suppose we're allowed to use triangle, sawtooth and their mixture. It's just notation which is wrong here.
2020-11-03 17:41
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 638
Why not fuck any waveform restrictions, dear Erik? =) To get anything listenable out of one voice without utilizing the filter is challenging enough.

And yeah ... if sync IS allowed, we need to be able to set the frequency of the modulating voice.
2020-11-03 17:49
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1714
Quote:
-Only one channel can be used at a time. For example, if channel 3 is being used, channel 1 and channel 2 can't be used.

'only one channel can be used at a time' _or_ 'only one channel may be heard at a time'?
If the former, what constitutes use? Is it ok if it's silenced by testbit, but otherwise configured?
2020-11-26 14:45
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 833
Maybe postpone this compo for another time? It looks like musicians are focusing too much on Jojeli's compo right now.
2020-11-26 14:54
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
That and Eric seems to abandon it little a bit :(
2020-11-26 17:54
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
Quote: Why not fuck any waveform restrictions, dear Erik? =) To get anything listenable out of one voice without utilizing the filter is challenging enough.

And yeah ... if sync IS allowed, we need to be able to set the frequency of the modulating voice.


shouldnt be so hard, I was happy with playsid on miggy without filters, on most older sonds its not very noticable (for the non musician ears)
2020-11-27 11:43
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 638
Quote: shouldnt be so hard, I was happy with playsid on miggy without filters, on most older sonds its not very noticable (for the non musician ears)

Sure, but you played THREE voices and all waveforms available ;)

To get an idea imagine having to code Desert Dream in a monitor with your hands tight to your back and only your flaccid 11th finger available.
2020-11-27 12:34
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
@Eric Dobek

Any chance of extending compo deadline?
2020-11-29 09:21
F7sus4

Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 112
In my humble opinion, the rules would make more sense if the limitation was one voice, all waveforms and filters. Then you can use all your smart-assery with scarce resources. Right now, it's more like "Take this 5 cent coin and go make us a dinner, but be creative". ;-)
2020-11-29 11:06
ZeHa

Registered: Apr 2009
Posts: 6
that's what I planned to do - a "single channel" compo where everything is allowed, but restricted to one channel. the only thing though that should be disallowed would be any form of samples of course. but the question is, where does one draw the line. if someone changes the registers fast enough, it can already be "sample-esque", as compared to someone just doing it once per raster frame.
2020-11-29 23:34
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Quoting F7sus4
In my humble opinion, the rules would make more sense if the limitation was one voice, all waveforms and filters. Then you can use all your smart-assery with scarce resources. Right now, it's more like "Take this 5 cent coin and go make us a dinner, but be creative". ;-)


You might be surprised here, actually ;)
2020-11-30 08:36
F7sus4

Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 112
@Jammer: Proceed, I'd gladly will.
2020-11-30 11:18
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3034
Quote: In my humble opinion, the rules would make more sense if the limitation was one voice, all waveforms and filters. Then you can use all your smart-assery with scarce resources. Right now, it's more like "Take this 5 cent coin and go make us a dinner, but be creative". ;-)

Made me smile, thanx ;-)
2020-12-03 23:35
Isildur

Registered: Sep 2006
Posts: 274
No filters is boring AF ;)
2020-12-04 00:21
Mibri

Registered: Feb 2018
Posts: 197
Did we get a definitive answer on whether or not hardsync and ring mod effects are allowed, with a silent channel used to set carrier frequencies?
2020-12-04 01:07
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Quoting Mibri
Did we get a definitive answer on whether or not hardsync and ring mod effects are allowed, with a silent channel used to set carrier frequencies?


Make software ringmod on 1 unlinked channel, ya sissy! :D
2020-12-04 11:31
Mibri

Registered: Feb 2018
Posts: 197
Quote: Quoting Mibri
Did we get a definitive answer on whether or not hardsync and ring mod effects are allowed, with a silent channel used to set carrier frequencies?


Make software ringmod on 1 unlinked channel, ya sissy! :D


But daaaaaaad!
2020-12-04 13:58
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1378
No more than 20 writes per register per frame, writes only allowed to registers 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,$0e,$0f,$12 & $18, and the only permitted values for writes to $12 are zero and eight (might need to reset osc3 to get consistent ringmod or sync effects).

Done!
2020-12-06 18:21
Eric Dobek
Account closed

Registered: Jun 2020
Posts: 18
So, just to clear up some things, the waveforms you can use are $1 through $8. This means triangle, saw, triangle+saw, pulse, pulse+saw, pulse+triangle, pulse+triangle+saw, and noise waveforms are allowed. Since a couple of entries have already used hardsync+ringmod without any linked channels, as long as you can use ringmod+hardsync without using more than one channel, it is allowed. Testbit with hard restart is allowed. Let me know if you have any more concerns.
2020-12-06 18:34
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Not me. Rules are imho pretty clear now.
2021-02-03 00:40
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
first read rules and thought: impossibubble
no one competed for quite a while, so thought: yeah what I thought
then some entries baffled me somewhat
now listening to winner: OM*G! \o/
Must admit it wasn't a bad idea at all to host this
Thx Eric
2021-02-03 21:35
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
well, linus is pretty good at doing music typing with his flacid thingie, ammazing entries, who need 3 channels? hehe well done guys
2021-02-04 15:03
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 638
My thingie was rather sturdy this time around, but thanks anyway.
2021-02-04 16:18
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
.oO(must...resist...)
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