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2021-04-25 18:07
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
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Release id #203390 : Unity

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Submitted by Ze Smasher on 25 April 2021
great demo! I love the triple fisting part and the one with the big logo swing with that strange color fx (is it by you, Doc?).
I have a question tho (a simple straight question without malignity and bad feelings which I hope won't offend anyone): if you are the organizers of a party should your demo compete against other entries or be set out of the compo?
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Submitted by anonym on 25 April 2021
Appreciate the question. Something like this has happened at other parties many many times before, it took less than a minute to find several other examples here on CSDb.
For us, there were a number of reasons this happened, mostly because the timing worked out. For a new event, there are many risks involved. One of the biggest risks is a lack of release for the competitions. One way to address this is to have your own entry.
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2021-04-26 12:15
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11107
Everything in this thread should be mandatory
2021-04-26 12:39
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 552
Quote: Why no rule like: "Famous people/groups are not allowed to enter compos because of name-voting"?

Also, demos should be neutral in content, not stirring up votes with propaganda and feeling (damn you, Mr.Z, and Gubbdata 2018 :-p).
2021-04-26 12:41
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 552
And... you shouldn't be allowed to gift intros to other groups while trying to win competitions ;-p

Intro for Bonzai
2021-04-26 13:22
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
Quote: And... you shouldn't be allowed to gift intros to other groups while trying to win competitions ;-p

Intro for Bonzai


uff, you hit below the belt! :)
2021-04-26 15:08
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Quote: Why no rule like: "Famous people/groups are not allowed to enter compos because of name-voting"?

Or: "You cannot enter a compo with a coop demo with lots of groups, as you have more voters for yourself."

I can think of some examples for that too, and one that Padua was involved in ;-)

There also is the rule not to vote for yourself that people are probably still sticking (and correctly so) for diskmags, but what about on CSDb? There the rule is, vote a 10 for yourselves and a 1 for the one who is ranked higher ;-)

Ultimately this started from an illegal cracking scene (with groups like, let's say F4CG ;-) ), so we why would we introduce more rules now, especially that this has become more of a friendly, cooperative scene over the years? Are we German? (well, some of us)...

I don't see myself adding this as a rule to a compo/event I'm setting going forward, even though I get the notion. I want to provide entertainment for the attendees and attract good releases.
2021-04-26 15:21
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11107
There are still people who take this voting nonsense serious? =)
2021-04-26 22:34
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 886
Quote: And as for juries:

X'2000 -> Xenon 1st

Hard to find out these days when X started to have a jury and when they decided to abandon that practice, but i'm glad they did eventually. =)


Wondering if I should post, but there you go..

I can't recall if there was still jury voting in 2000, or 1998 was the last time. I believe we won fairly that year, maybe you should check the other entries.

Anyway, if groups can't compete on their own parties, that would be a loss for the scene. Is it fair? Not sure. Unfair? Not sure.

Probably the whole "who won" thing depends on who you ask, so there will always be discussion.
2021-04-26 23:00
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
Quote:
Is it fair? Not sure. Unfair? Not sure.

most appreciated answer for me in this thread. thanks!
2021-04-26 23:12
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 886
Forgot to say : you guys won fairly! Congrats! :-)
2021-04-27 08:30
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1031
I demand a recount! We have many witnesses that say there were massive vote dumps: dead people voting, aliens voting and I even heard some Atari sceners were voting! /o\

anyways, since all (?) current parties have public voting, this is an already solved problem...
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