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2021-06-10 15:45
MuZZa

Registered: Nov 2020
Posts: 16
Group id #11406 : Neonazi Cracking Crew

Hi all, I remember when we wanted to register on CSDB. almost a year requesting to we be admitted (literally a year asking to be allowed to create an account) for we be able to upload our stuff... And suddenly, by magic, we see that a group that proclaims itself "neonazi" with only one release during the '87, has an entry in the database. Sorry guys, it's inevitable for us, to ask ourselves, which is the objective of giving visibility to a group called NEONAZI... also that it doesn't even have big productions to be considered of importance for the demoscene (not even mentioning them).
if you have a table with 10 people and a nazi. So, you have a table with 11 nazis ... we are not sitting at that table.
Without the intention of generating discussion.
Moderator you can close this thread.
Best Regards,
The Codeblasters.
 
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2021-06-11 12:07
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
@Cjam: I think you're onto something there! ;)

Anyway... While we're drifting away somewhat from the topic I might as well recommend the book "Ordinary Men" by Christopher Browning. It is interesting in the sense that it does not ask the question "How is it possible that THEY could do such evil things?", but rather "How is it that ordinary men, who were JUST LIKE US in many ways, could do these things?". If we're to "learn from history", as Ian pointed to, I think that is a more productive way to ask the question. While it may seem odd, most of us would have been Nazis — statistically speaking — if we were born in Germany in that time period. Personally I don't deletion of certain entries from CSDb solves much. :D
2021-06-11 13:50
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11100
were? don't you listen to spanky?
2021-06-11 15:31
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1820
Indeed our Head of SS groepaz is questionable in many ways. Nothing to discuss there.

Apart from that - we could add more categories and tags to "better" reflect the content! :)
Like racist, abusive, insulting, spanky...
2021-06-11 15:45
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1370
Quoting Count Zero
spanky...

HAH!

Someone's going to be apologizing for a terrible Madonna cover if this keeps up..
2021-06-11 16:21
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3034
Quote: Indeed our Head of SS groepaz is questionable in many ways. Nothing to discuss there.

Apart from that - we could add more categories and tags to "better" reflect the content! :)
Like racist, abusive, insulting, spanky...


And who would be the judge when someone too woke would start to tag every nudes with "abusive" tag? Is e.g. Ripeness inappropriate? I feel a bit awkward to look at it, but it's kind of beautiful.

Btw. I still ask, how can we be 100% sure that NCC is real group and it's not fake with all it's entries? Can it be checked somehow for authenticity?
2021-06-11 16:24
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11100
I thought you can check the SYS line?

If people werent obsessed with ripping spreaddisks apart, we'd at least have some context.
2021-06-11 18:11
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3034
Quote: I thought you can check the SYS line?

If people werent obsessed with ripping spreaddisks apart, we'd at least have some context.


Would it help verify if it's an authentic or a fabricated file?
2021-06-11 18:38
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11100
Ultimatively you have to trust whoever digged it up, obviously. However, given that you trust the guy who digged it up, the context could tell a bit more about where it comes from.
2021-06-15 00:13
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2053
Uploader Radd Maxx (USA) can be trusted not to make such stuff up.

And (unlike Spanky thinks) all Nazis after 1945 are either very-old- or neo-(new)-nazis, bottom line the term ain't so neo to have doubts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW8a-FcI10g
(Inspite of same Christian name and my history with living in Berlin, this ain't by me or any of my incarnations that cause redneck paranoia on Lemon). EDIT However, I wish I'd look as cool as the dude on the cover!

Seriously I'd say it's a lamer/fake label by some kids who laughed big deal about shocking people. And if they had known that people would still be shocked/puzzled some 35 years later, they'd have laughed their asses off :)
2021-06-15 01:01
Six

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 287
Quoting TheRyk
Uploader Radd Maxx (USA) can be trusted not to make such stuff up.

100% this. Dude is completely dedicated to preserving history.
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