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2021-06-10 15:45
MuZZa

Registered: Nov 2020
Posts: 7
Group id #11406 : Neonazi Cracking Crew

Hi all, I remember when we wanted to register on CSDB. almost a year requesting to we be admitted (literally a year asking to be allowed to create an account) for we be able to upload our stuff... And suddenly, by magic, we see that a group that proclaims itself "neonazi" with only one release during the '87, has an entry in the database. Sorry guys, it's inevitable for us, to ask ourselves, which is the objective of giving visibility to a group called NEONAZI... also that it doesn't even have big productions to be considered of importance for the demoscene (not even mentioning them).
if you have a table with 10 people and a nazi. So, you have a table with 11 nazis ... we are not sitting at that table.
Without the intention of generating discussion.
Moderator you can close this thread.
Best Regards,
The Codeblasters.
 
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2021-06-10 21:40
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 9913
Quote:
Do any of these groups with all this propaganda do you really believe that they have contributed in some constructive way to the demoscene?

thats irrelevant. if that'd be in some way a thing to consider about who or what is documented here, the majority of database entries would have to go.
2021-06-11 06:43
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1164
So, MuZZa had to wait for nearly a year, and NCC had to wait for 33 years? Seems reasonable :D

(but also yes, listen to Groepaz as usual)
2021-06-11 09:01
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 944
What I find way more relevant is the question what Arkanoid has to do with Adolf. I wondered that before in Phantoms of the Asteriod and Jul Adolf
2021-06-11 09:40
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1164
Hey maybe NCC were all about cracking neonazis' skulls open?

I mean, if there's nothing in the scrolltext either way the group name is really quite ambiguous.
2021-06-11 10:14
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1518
@CJam: Yeah, "Adolf" probably hated Adolf.
2021-06-11 10:57
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 1916
I guess the use of swastikas in the intro is also quite ambiguous, then? :)
2021-06-11 11:06
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1164
Yes, they were probably just using the ancient Buddhist symbol to express their religious beliefs :D
2021-06-11 12:07
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1518
@Cjam: I think you're onto something there! ;)

Anyway... While we're drifting away somewhat from the topic I might as well recommend the book "Ordinary Men" by Christopher Browning. It is interesting in the sense that it does not ask the question "How is it possible that THEY could do such evil things?", but rather "How is it that ordinary men, who were JUST LIKE US in many ways, could do these things?". If we're to "learn from history", as Ian pointed to, I think that is a more productive way to ask the question. While it may seem odd, most of us would have been Nazis — statistically speaking — if we were born in Germany in that time period. Personally I don't deletion of certain entries from CSDb solves much. :D
2021-06-11 13:50
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 9913
were? don't you listen to spanky?
2021-06-11 15:31
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1350
Indeed our Head of SS groepaz is questionable in many ways. Nothing to discuss there.

Apart from that - we could add more categories and tags to "better" reflect the content! :)
Like racist, abusive, insulting, spanky...
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