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2023-01-19 19:48
RobertRamsay(PiXelburner)
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Release id #228399 : Big Droid

I wonder who decided to upload these images originally posted on my itch page... who created the RRFreelance handle I wonder? Come forth ye mysterious beast and confess ye actions or suffer in silence for I shall not make or post any more of my images so freely in future.
 
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2023-01-20 22:43
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
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Quote: Thanks, in future if anyone posts a.i generated stuff it would be good to be transparent about it, it is inevitable that it will happen, maybe I am one of the first to let the genie out of the bottle here and yeah it is impressive what can be done with the right tools and knowledge. I created Backdrop designer to make the process of making C64 bitmaps an easier process but it does belittle those with real talent making such amazing works, those are my idols and I should strive to make good artwork the right way.

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Keep on pixelling!
2023-01-20 23:10
El Jefe

Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 68
Aww, what a happy end to the story! :-)

Mild-hearted moderators forgive the "mass-deleter", Groepaz's comment (#19), entries being readded, everyone happy :-)

Jokes aside: Nice that this did not end up in an actual drama, and it also started a constructive discussion about how to handle/deal with releases that are based on AI sources.

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2023-01-20 23:40
Adam

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 321
this sets a terrible precedent and will only encourage others to release more generated trash from dubious origins.
2023-01-20 23:46
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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For those who care, there is a thread about it and how it will affect compos somewhere on pouet :)
2023-01-20 23:56
RobertRamsay(PiXelburner)
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Quote: For those who care, there is a thread about it and how it will affect compos somewhere on pouet :)

I'd love to read that.

Now, what is the take on making C64 artwork say from a photoshop image, converted then cleaned up in a C64 editor is that also a bit of a 'fake artist' thing, with all the tools and tech here these days, can we really assume all artwork is done in a legit, place each pixel manually, way?
2023-01-21 00:01
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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A lot of people work like this.

IMHO the only bad thing is, when the motive (as in source picture) isn't made by you and then you claim its your own.

here is the thread: https://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=12344&page=1
2023-01-21 00:02
RobertRamsay(PiXelburner)
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Liek what about photobashing, converting and cleaning up, is this what you mean by 'source picture'?
2023-01-21 00:06
chatGPZ

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Not sure what "photobashing" means =) What i mean is downloading random images made by someone else (or create them using AI for that matter), then convert them into C64 format, and claim it's your "art".
2023-01-21 00:07
El Jefe

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Quote: this sets a terrible precedent and will only encourage others to release more generated trash from dubious origins.

Terrible precedents have been there all the time. However, this is the first time I've seen the "artist" resist being credited for it ... this is what I like about the discussion.

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2023-01-21 00:09
RobertRamsay(PiXelburner)
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Quote: Not sure what "photobashing" means =) What i mean is downloading random images made by someone else (or create them using AI for that matter), then convert them into C64 format, and claim it's your "art".

I meant matte painting, where you put an image together from photos, fix them up a bit to make some sense. Then I suppose one would convert it, stylise and clean it up etc. Like how different is this from using reference or 3D models?
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