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2006-09-21 07:29
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1698
Release id #40365 : 25 x Turbo

Does anyone know the origin of this code...

Info:
Turbo at $e000-$e88d. ($e406 called by the small init at $014b)
Trackbuffer $e900-$fdff.
Transfer decode buffer $fe00-$ffff.

Quick analysis:
Init:
* There is no init except setting up the load vector.
* The load vector points to $014b.
* The routine at $014b copies some kernal routines ($ed00-$f0ff) to
ram under kernal and then jumps to $e406.
* At $e406 the filename is checked for '$' and device numbers below 8,
at which it skips out to $f4a6 for normal load.
* $e42c, print searching...
* $e433 loader init starts.

Loader:
* $e457 copy bootstrap to drive
At $e817 the drive code is stored, pre-M-W-encoded. Each command is
terminated with a $ff marker, and the last command is terminated by
an additional $ff marker.
This code is just a small bootstrap ($0706-$075f) waiting for the
rest of the code.
* $e489 copy the real drive code by high speed transfer.
Copies the code $e000-$e405 (inclusive) to $0300-$0705, resulting in
code from $0300-$075f.
The drive then jumps to $04af.
* $e4b2 speed load the entire track 18 for fast file finding.
* $e4d1 find the file with wild cards.
* $e529 file found, t/s to $b4/$b5
* $e542 print loading
* $e549 check for invalid track. Luxury! smile
* $e55c send track number
* $e566 load entire track.
* $e56d sector out of range for track?
* $e573 load sector data from track buffer until the track changes,
after each loop call $e59c to flush the buffer to memory.
* $e593 file loaded, flush buffer by calling $e59c a last time.
* $e599 exit out, done.

Load entire track at $e725:
* $e725, initialize sector count, set number of sectors to $a3. Start
on sector 0.
* $e742, call $e61f to get one block in two halves from drive to
$fe00/$ff00 and merge it into $e900+sector number using the two 32
byte tables at $e7ab and $e7cb. Checksum to $d7.
* $e748 add interleave 3.
 
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2022-08-01 16:25
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2800
Quoting DeeKay
<Krill> Hold my beer... Transwarp V0.64
To be fair, it's about standard-format fastloading (Vorpal/Warp*25/Heureka-Sprint existed).

Current reference as of this post would be Mafiosino Trackloader V2.1 which makes about 19x. =)
2022-08-03 14:59
Trurl

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 58
Did the BKS Odenwald/25x Turbo and Most Access have anything in common codewise with Gigaload? IIRC all three were roughly the same speed and back in the 80's they were the only ones in that ballpark.
2022-08-03 15:27
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1698
Quote: Did the BKS Odenwald/25x Turbo and Most Access have anything in common codewise with Gigaload? IIRC all three were roughly the same speed and back in the 80's they were the only ones in that ballpark.

The BKS Odenwald version and gigaload implementations seem very different.
2022-08-05 19:26
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1698
Quote: @tlr: Get an AMICA Paint original disk, the loader is used there.

Did this loader ever surface?
2022-09-08 10:38
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3124
I think I found it, from coll\bugjam\Box103\disk082a.d64+disk082b.d64

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ccceit14rnnzig/amicapaint.zip?dl=0

the file "MOST-ACCESS C000" in side A is exactly as Most-Access II+ and has nothing to do with 25xturbo, no matches in code. Some more evidence is needed to prove this was by Oliver Stiller, other than "trust me bro"
2022-09-08 14:38
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1698
Quote: I think I found it, from coll\bugjam\Box103\disk082a.d64+disk082b.d64

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ccceit14rnnzig/amicapaint.zip?dl=0

the file "MOST-ACCESS C000" in side A is exactly as Most-Access II+ and has nothing to do with 25xturbo, no matches in code. Some more evidence is needed to prove this was by Oliver Stiller, other than "trust me bro"


Exactly. The claim that "Most Access II" on an original Amica Paint disk is the BKS Odenwald branded turbo is unsubstantiated as no turbo called "Most Access II" has surfaced so far.

I've seen only "Most Access II+" and this "MOST-ACCESS C000" on the Amica Paint disk, and those variants are completely different.

Good find!
2022-09-08 14:49
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11073
Quote:
Some more evidence is needed to prove this was by Oliver Stiller, other than "trust me bro"

I don't quite understand what exactly that refers to - but Amica Paint (and Most Access) is from 64er Sonderheft 'Graphics', pretty sure it mentions who made what. Perhaps later versions were also published in 64er.
2022-09-08 18:18
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1698
Quote: Quote:
Some more evidence is needed to prove this was by Oliver Stiller, other than "trust me bro"

I don't quite understand what exactly that refers to - but Amica Paint (and Most Access) is from 64er Sonderheft 'Graphics', pretty sure it mentions who made what. Perhaps later versions were also published in 64er.


This thread is about 25 X Turbo. Graham claims it's by Oliver Stiller in post #7. It may be so, but there's no real evidence of that so far.
2022-09-08 19:57
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5005
most access was my fave turbo back in the days.
2022-09-10 10:38
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2800
Is it just me or is "Most-Access" one of the worst names ever conceived? =)
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