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2007-11-30 01:57
Matt

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 589
Release id #32484 : Pinball Dreams C64 Preview

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2016-10-28 14:32
Iapetus/Algarbi/Wood

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 71
I can't stand the YM sound though. yuck
2016-10-28 15:55
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989
Quote: Must talk to Jackasser...

Had to cancel my x-trip.. :( my wife is just waaay too pregnant. :D if you wanna finish it plz contact me on FB and we'll setup a modern dev-chain and just do it. All the hard stuff is done.

Pantaloon: please ask your bosses if they have the score-rules for the game stashed at Dice somewhere.
2016-10-28 16:11
Iapetus/Algarbi/Wood

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 71
Quote: Something seems off with the ball physics in the CPC version. In WVL's C64 version (and of course the Amiga original) the ball curves smoothly around the ramp bends, but in the CPC version the ball jerks and loses speed. Also when the ball launches it just falls like a dead fish.

Compare:

https://youtu.be/HVv-oBN6AWA?t=3m29s
https://youtu.be/GvmmCv8_GSU?t=4m10s

They've nailed the graphics engine and the music though, so with some physics tweaks it looks like a really nice port.

PS: Mr SID, they'd be wrong, especially if you do 16-bit math and addressing. IIRC a 4 MHz Z80 should have at least 50% more grunt compared to a 1 MHz 6502.


The Effective CPU speed on the CPC is 3.3 MHZ (Google for: Z80 timings on Amstrad CPC - Octoate.de Wiki)
2016-10-29 08:26
rexbeng

Registered: Aug 2012
Posts: 30
Just a comment on the instances where the ball and/or scrolling seems jerky on the youtube video posted on Pouet. There's still some trouble with capturing and uploading CPC emulator videos on youtube.

This videocamera capture of the real thing should be a more accurate example. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-tcsxUtMj5I

Having written the above, I still havent run PD on a real CPC yet.
2016-10-31 12:01
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2476
Blimey, missed the chance to harrass WVL on X. ;-)
But great to hear that there is some movement in the project again!
2016-10-31 12:07
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11107
i totally forgot to harass werner about this! pah

good luck for your wife jackasser :)
2016-10-31 12:17
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2476
Oh yes, also what gpz said - jackasser, all the best, and keep them fresh sceners coming! :-)
2016-10-31 12:20
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
Quoting rexbeng
Just a comment on the instances where the ball and/or scrolling seems jerky on the youtube video posted on Pouet. There's still some trouble with capturing and uploading CPC emulator videos on youtube.


Interesting, presumably because they screw around with the video timing for some effects, a la C128 VDC effects? Either way, emulator/capture jerkiness is not what I'm talking about, it's the ball changing speed and angle in unexpected ways.
2016-10-31 16:57
rexbeng

Registered: Aug 2012
Posts: 30
@MagerValp

Well, I am a pixel man and not the right person to go into technical details. If you care there's an 'official' thread following the release of PD where the author is actually posting answers to people's technical questions. :)

http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/games/pinball-illusions-new-game-fr..
2016-10-31 18:37
Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 421
Just opensource it on GitHub – someone will pick it up :)

Or better – run a KickStarter campaign, and get paid to finish it.
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