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2009-04-30 08:25
DeeKay

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362
Custom Char paint program?

I wonder: Is there any program that allows you to load (or even edit) your own custom charset (and screen) and then colorize it? It should support hires, Multicolor (yes, also the hires in multicolor!) and ECM!
Back in the day i used Paintmagic because you had *some* control over what color maps to which bitpattern and you could easily colorize chars. But paintmagic neither allows working with charsets and obviously does not support hires!

I think some game graphics tools might do the job, but I don't really know what's easy to use!...

Any suggestions?
2009-04-30 12:05
Stone

Registered: Oct 2006
Posts: 168
I just went through some of my old disks yesterday, and found (among other things) this old tool I made way back when...

http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/index.php?id=78317

It has at least some of the features you're looking for:
load/save/edit of custom character sets in hires or multicolor.

You can also create character sets with double width/height and the editor has a function for copying the rom character sets and stretching vertically + horizontally.

The editor is started by SYS25000 and there's even a norwegian version on the disk. It uses the character set at address $0800, so if you want to load a character set from another source, you'll have to load that manually. Hope it'll be of use to you!
2009-04-30 13:38
Ninja

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 404
MapEddi 2 - 1351 fix should be an editor for you, dk ;)
2009-04-30 14:19
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
<Post edited by chatGPZ on 30/4-2009 17:25>

<quote>is there any program that allows you to load (or even edit) your own custom charset (and screen) and then colorize it?</quote>

you must be kiddin' ... magic disk alone probably published a dozen of map editors =D try SEUCK if you must =D
2009-04-30 15:13
DeeKay

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362
Well, gpz, i came here looking for a few NAMES of programs to try out! <:-)
I know there are such programs, i just haven't come across any (apart from the Katakis Devkit (was it Katakis? I think!))...

MapEddi2 looks promising, will try that, thx ninja! ;-)

Stein: This editor of yours doesn't appear to allow editing of whole screens, and the charmatrix seems to be fixed (ultrafont style)... Or am I just using it wrong? ;-)
2009-04-30 15:45
Stone

Registered: Oct 2006
Posts: 168
DeeKay: My editor doesn't do screen editing, it's just for editing simple fonts. And yes, the grid is fixed for each mode (1x1, 1x2, 2x1, 2x2).
2009-04-30 15:58
DeeKay

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362
Okay, I did try out Mapeddi2 and it is not suitable unfortunately. Neither can i load my own charsets and screens, nor can I work on a 1x1 basis (every screen is structured in 2x2 blocks).

So the search is still on. Any other suggestions? 8) Gpz maybe?
2009-04-30 16:27
v3to

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 150
Hey Deekay.

Probably the tool OPM is suitable. A bit weird though, because it is somekind of Firefox-Addon, but therefore quiet handy...

Almighty God used it for his char-based pic Crepusculogirl (remember the Level 64 demo at the X08 party?).

2009-04-30 16:58
Nitro
Account closed

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 13
CharPad V1.0 maybe? It has all features You want except ECM, and nice option to rip charsets from vice snapshot.
Yep, it's Windows program, but should work fine in WINE.
2009-04-30 17:08
Angel of Death

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 210
Try this one.

Graphic Editor (J.Fox)

Never used anything else since 1987.
Map editor is also very easy to use. As far as I know every char can be colorized seperately ($d800 color ram that is ofcourse)
Also contains one the very best sprite editors.
I am not a good coder and an even worse graphician but I find this one very good.

(edited the post. Forgot to include the link. Must be an ageing problem :))
2009-04-30 17:58
hollowman

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474
Level System Pro V1.4 is what I use, it handles hires and multicolor but not ecm
2009-04-30 19:04
DeeKay

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362
Thanks for the suggestions, one of these has gotta do the job! ;-D

And no, I still don't have Windows - nor WINE or Virtual PC! <:-)
2009-04-30 19:46
Wile Coyote

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 637
DeeKay, does this mean we might get to see some new dk gfx sometime soon :D
2009-05-01 12:02
DeeKay

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362
Quote: DeeKay, does this mean we might get to see some new dk gfx sometime soon :D


Nopes, how'd you get that idea? <:-)
I'm merely researching this for academic purposes! ;-D
2009-05-01 14:31
DeeKay

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362
argh, this is driving me insane!
the lepsi thing simply won't load. gives me a b0rked load-selection menu in VICE and nothing at all on the real machine and 1541u!

J.fox on the other hand WILL load. But the char is b0rked and the screen, too! WTF?
2009-05-01 21:36
Angel of Death

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 210
Heck! That's weird...
(I won't for humanities sake not give you the: "never had any problems myself!" remark.
Is probably a speeddos or a depacking problem.
I do have a .tap image of the original somewhere. If I have some info on the setup you used when it failed to work properly, I can see what I can do.
(if I have to recrack the bloody thing and send a 5 1/4 floppy to germany, then so be it!)
2015-11-23 21:16
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933
Does anybody have a good suggestion for this? I'm searching for the same features, more specific an ECM level/screen editor, preferably with a seperate colour map.
2016-03-05 15:50
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933
Not exactly, but close: J.Fox Editor ECM
2016-03-06 00:02
4mat

Registered: May 2010
Posts: 63
The char/screen editor I wrote in BlitzBasic(!) a while back does mono/multi/ECM, and you can remap the colours without the char changing. (choose colour, right click on screen to paint. I guess that's what you're looking for?) It's a bit clunky because I was the only one using it, but send a us DM Hein if you want a copy.
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