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2009-11-25 21:53
Morpheus

Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 152
Best program to draw C64 graphics with on a PC and on a MAC?

One of the very best artists from days gone by wants to dabble with C64 pixels again, so I'm asking on his behalf.

Cheers, Morph
 
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2009-11-30 20:02
Deev

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 206
I've run Timanthes on my desktop PC and through my Macbook Pro and it's extremely rare that it crashes (I'm talking 3-4 times ever during normal use). Both are Dual Core, so perhaps it is a bit more stable on newer CPUs?

Saving C64 files has sometimes been a little awkward, but usually after trying a couple of layer setups I've got it right.
2009-11-30 20:27
Celtic
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Registered: Jan 2002
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never had problems with timanthes either... and its functionality beats p1 easily i think.
2009-11-30 21:49
SIDWAVE
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Quote: No offence, Jan, but the first time you tried saving a picture as koala in timanthes the resolution was 331x189 or something. The last time you tried to save an IFLI picture as a standard (fligraph) FLI picture.

Both won't work, because of obvious reasons.

I guess my point is: I can put failsaves in for those (and will) but it hasn't been a high priority thing...
Any program can be made to crash if you do seemingly normal things:



(And no, i have nothing against P1, it is perfect for what it's supposed to do)


What we need Mirage, is you choose a mode, and the programs locks all to this mode, so you cant do anything wrong.
2009-11-30 22:05
Mirage

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 113
That's what P1 does, Jan... If you need more than that you can choose to use timanthes
2009-12-01 09:41
Archmage

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 185
On my computer Timanthes is perfectly stable, whereas P1 often crashes during saves, causing me to perform an annoying print screen->paste in Photoshop->import in P1-operation. So it goes both ways. In response to the threads topic my personal preference is P1. But I would never argue with anyone saying that they prefer Timanthes. Both programs are good!
2009-12-01 09:42
FATFrost
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Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 211
Project One has NEVER crashed for me, Timanthes ALWAYS crashes. hmpf. :(
2009-12-01 10:52
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 675
Sorry for this but:
HAHA, I will never ever again accept criticism on using GIMP.
All the tool all the people use all the time keep on crashing on all occasions? wtf?
Isnt proper safety the no.1 gain over native c64 solutions?
2009-12-01 12:25
Archmage

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 185
Quote: Sorry for this but:
HAHA, I will never ever again accept criticism on using GIMP.
All the tool all the people use all the time keep on crashing on all occasions? wtf?
Isnt proper safety the no.1 gain over native c64 solutions?


No, the number 1 gain is the mousewheel zoom actually. :)
2009-12-01 13:45
SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
Mirage: i just think it should have a format selector, so all those things are ok when you want to save, so you get no problems.
2009-12-01 13:52
spider-j

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 444
Quote: Sorry for this but:
HAHA, I will never ever again accept criticism on using GIMP.
All the tool all the people use all the time keep on crashing on all occasions? wtf?
Isnt proper safety the no.1 gain over native c64 solutions?


been also playing around with GIMP these days and found a good way to pixel pics that you should be able to convert 1:1 to koala (using 2*1 pixelbrush, 8*8 grid on 320*200px pic, only 3 different colors + bg in 8*8 field). but how do I convert those correctly? I use a palette with 16 colors in the exact order as on real machine. But when I try converters like GoDot colors get replaced by others or two different colors are merged into one... did you write a converter for yourself?
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