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2017-07-28 22:52
Nibelung
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Which tracker?

I'm an old bloke. Part of a local group way back. Used to make stuff on Huelsbeck's Soundmonitor and later the Rockmon.
Then moved on to Amiga and then the ST - attached to a bunch of Synthies.
But now I'm back to the scene and want to do something "Sidish," because that particular sound never left my heart.
The Gretchenfrage is: Which tool? I've loaded up the Soundmonitor and was puzzled how it works. Seems 30 years of
absence has wiped my memory *laughs*
Surely there are better tools? And what about digi-drums? I liked that Rockmon.
Stuff like Goat-Tracker for convenience? Is it true to the sound? Or does it sound different on VICE and a real thing?
(Yeah, I know that every SID sounds a bit different...)
 
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2017-07-29 00:03
chatGPZ

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the samples will only work on a 6581 (old sid chip)... other than that, no problem. a lot of musicians prefer the new chip actually :)
2017-07-29 00:13
Nibelung
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Well, I guess I'll try comfy on a sofa, laptop and VICE for fiddling around and about and then move on to the BIG Screen, C128 and a 80cm CRT TV :)
2017-07-30 12:09
Jammer

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Modern Love Classics this wasn't done with RockMon, I can tell you, sir ;)
2017-07-30 12:14
Hein

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Quote: Modern Love Classics this wasn't done with RockMon, I can tell you, sir ;)

So how was it made, then?
2017-07-30 12:17
Jammer

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I shall explain the process in prod info. Till then I don't want to hijack this thread too much ;) I just want to encourage Nibelung for up to date tools :D
2017-07-30 12:27
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
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Quote: I shall explain the process in prod info. Till then I don't want to hijack this thread too much ;) I just want to encourage Nibelung for up to date tools :D

Please do. I'm curious how you merge mods with sids, and if there's a way to do a final sound-production, or if it's just tweaking in different programs all the time, untill the balance is right.
2017-07-30 15:12
DKT

Registered: Aug 2004
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Quote:
... I'd like to do it native ... Is there anything bad about Rockmon these days ...


Like Groepaz said. There are 3 editors which are currently maintained (a live projects). Comparing to old trackers they have good documentation (PDFs, source code, authors help) and features like user friendly disk functions, packer included, etc.

Blackbird 1.1
Virtuoso V1.01
SID-Wizard V1.7
2017-07-30 16:33
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
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Quote: Please do. I'm curious how you merge mods with sids, and if there's a way to do a final sound-production, or if it's just tweaking in different programs all the time, untill the balance is right.

The latter, dear master Hein. The process is very counter intuitive and there are no easy shortcuts.
2017-07-30 17:29
chatGPZ

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i havent even tried to compose an original tune with my stuff (which works very much alike) yet for the same reason... workflow sux :=P
2017-08-04 01:21
Nibelung
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@Jammer: Hijack it! No prob here :)
@DKT: Rockmon for two simple reasons: A) The Drums :p
B) The fourth voice!! <<! <-(!) <<<!!! :)

I'll give Modern Love Classics a shot. A lil late now...

Ah, by the way, I had a rendezvouz with GoatTracker. What immediately hits me is, that EVERY FUCKING Tracker is complicated as hell! No chance without a manual! Hey! It's fucking 2017! Ok, some helpful popups on a native tracker are difficult, but not impossible. But crisscross stuff? Should be mousedriven and hovering over a topic should explain. Or is the scene too scenish and their tools too toolish? :P
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