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2018-01-27 03:46
Stinsen

Registered: Feb 2012
Posts: 49
Multi timberal SIDs

I'm curious of the best examples where the composers really overcome the limitation of three channels in the composition. Two examples I come to think of:

Powerhouse
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2018-01-29 09:53
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1358
Timbral, not timberal

Ha!
2018-01-29 10:11
Perplex

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 215
Quoting Frantic
Timbral, not timberal


Timberal SID-tunes use only sawtooth waveform.
2018-01-29 11:31
Stinsen

Registered: Feb 2012
Posts: 49
Quote: Quoting Frantic
Timbral, not timberal


Timberal SID-tunes use only sawtooth waveform.


Haha, that's a good one. :D I actually noticed my spelling mistake, but too late and csdb isn't really favorable to editorial changes it seems.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestions, I'll take a listen for sure. I'm actually impressed that you manage to come up with some stuff, given the somewhat vague topic. ;)
2018-01-29 13:17
GH/MSL/Toondichters

Registered: Sep 2014
Posts: 67
JT is the greatest :D To my ears he was a pioneer overcoming the limitation of three channels Sound and composition-wise.
Other than the ordinary "still common" approach by adding a Bass to a Kick and using Toks/Tiks and Short Arps on one channel or whole notes on 3 channels as a chord on only few rows he was also playing Arpchords as whole melody in the song structure. That was a whole new era in Sidland.

Maybe it was my 16 years old brain that got confused hearing chords played as a lead. I thought the lead was still in there as I know now it was the root of the chord. But maybe that more a limitation of my mind other than the 3 channel ;)

@Linus
If we mean by Multi Timbral thinking you're listening to one voice and hearing two or more than your tune
"I Dig up more graves you'll will ever find" is quite an example :D
2018-01-29 13:50
lft

Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 356
Shameless plug: Intertwined, the polyphony starts to go crazy around 1:53.
2018-01-29 18:49
Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 289
These :)

http://hvsc.perff.dk/MUSICIANS/T/Tjelta_Geir/Artillery_hidden_p..
(and it's digi echo version http://hvsc.perff.dk/MUSICIANS/T/Tjelta_Geir/Artillery_credits...)

http://hvsc.perff.dk/MUSICIANS/H/Holt_Hein/Bootsys_Club_Tonic_8..

http://hvsc.perff.dk/MUSICIANS/W/Wizard/OtherSIDe.sid
2018-01-29 18:50
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 603
Quote:
I thought the lead was still in there as I know now it was the root of the chord.


Or the upper extension ;)

Ok, makes sense from that point of view. I was indeed more thinking „Dug some graves ...“ and what not.

Jeez, Stinsen and his vague questions, eh? :D
2018-01-29 21:29
Randall

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 391
i'm afraid i don't understand the question. do you mean "which tunes achieved the richest perceived polyphony while avoiding putting all chord notes into arpeggios"? that would be a hard nut to crack, one needs highly trained ears to decide (i'm out) :|
2018-01-30 11:29
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 784
That Artillery tune <3 <3 <3 Especially how arpeggioes overlap :)
2018-01-31 19:32
Rastah Bar

Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 160
http://hvsc.perff.dk/MUSICIANS/T/Tel_Jeroen/S-Express.sid
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