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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 444 |
sid2sng Windows builds
Because I read some people have problems compiling this [https://github.com/2bt/sid2sng] for Windows you can maybe try these versions:
https://jansalleine.com/trans/sid2sng.zip
32 and 64 bit versions included in the zip. Crosscompiled on Linux with mingw32 GCC. I don't have any Windows to test. They work in WINE... It's a command line tool, so use in CMD (or Powershell) or whatever stupid "terminal" like program Windows has nowadays...
Use at your own risk and happy instrument stealing! :-P |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
sid2sng 1.0 |
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DeMOSic
Registered: Aug 2021
Posts: 126 |
Quote: Because I read some people have problems compiling this [https://github.com/2bt/sid2sng] for Windows you can maybe try these versions:
https://jansalleine.com/trans/sid2sng.zip
32 and 64 bit versions included in the zip. Crosscompiled on Linux with mingw32 GCC. I don't have any Windows to test. They work in WINE... It's a command line tool, so use in CMD (or Powershell) or whatever stupid "terminal" like program Windows has nowadays...
Use at your own risk and happy instrument stealing! :-P
Thanks!
Also instrument stealing? Noo! More like module snagging lol |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062 |
I've never "stolen" instruments, I've only borrowed them and gave them back (almost undamaged)
Thanks for the win build, spider, will try out and report. |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 444 |
@hedning Thanks for adding. Wasn't sure if a random Github program that doesn't even have any releases / builds attached would count as scene release. I thought to count someone had to slap a crack-intro in front of it ... ;-P |
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Magnar
Registered: Aug 2009
Posts: 60 |
I would like to see someone create a diskpack with only SNG files of all the SID files made in Goattracker out there. A new GP release? :)
I guess those composers that put lots of efforts in sid instrumentation fear this tool a lot more than I do. That said, I already previous done some SID dumps of the songs I wanted to investigate. This tool is therefore really nothing new under the sun, - it only comes with a much more preferred output-format of a SNG file (making it friendly for everyone to use) rather than textfile dumps and post scripts cleaning things up etc.
Cheers Magnar |
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DeMOSic
Registered: Aug 2021
Posts: 126 |
Quote: I would like to see someone create a diskpack with only SNG files of all the SID files made in Goattracker out there. A new GP release? :)
I guess those composers that put lots of efforts in sid instrumentation fear this tool a lot more than I do. That said, I already previous done some SID dumps of the songs I wanted to investigate. This tool is therefore really nothing new under the sun, - it only comes with a much more preferred output-format of a SNG file (making it friendly for everyone to use) rather than textfile dumps and post scripts cleaning things up etc.
Cheers Magnar
I hope someone makes that! Ive successfully ripped zero fucks capacitor and 64 forever but most other tunes didnt work lol |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062 |
Magnar: Not every musician is so stingy with their instruments.
Sng Pack #1 |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: Magnar: Not every musician is so stingy with their instruments.
Sng Pack #1
Also Stinsen made a GP "Sharing is caring" pack :)
Song Pack #1. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: @hedning Thanks for adding. Wasn't sure if a random Github program that doesn't even have any releases / builds attached would count as scene release. I thought to count someone had to slap a crack-intro in front of it ... ;-P
Well, you built it and supplied it, and I just archived it before it was lost. Just the source would not be anything for CSDb, but this seems useful. ;) |
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Splunkh!
Registered: Apr 2021
Posts: 31 |
Quote: Well, you built it and supplied it, and I just archived it before it was lost. Just the source would not be anything for CSDb, but this seems useful. ;)
Very useful.
sid -> sng -> swm
If i was only unemployed I would live in complete symbiosis with Sidwizard/Breadbin.
Thanks both of you for sharing the sng packs above! |
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Splunkh!
Registered: Apr 2021
Posts: 31 |
The guy who wrote sid2sng sent me an email today saying he just compiled a exe of another tool.
https://github.com/2bt/sid-monitor
You can play the song and see the voices on a piano roll and move/listen though the song frame by frame and analyze the register content. You might find it useful. At the github page you can see what keys to push in order to study the SID.
Just drop a sid on the exe, slap space and enjoy :) really interesting I think.
Can this tool be added CSDb too? (despite the lack of a crack-intro slapped on it :) :P). |
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Splunkh!
Registered: Apr 2021
Posts: 31 |
Quote: The guy who wrote sid2sng sent me an email today saying he just compiled a exe of another tool.
https://github.com/2bt/sid-monitor
You can play the song and see the voices on a piano roll and move/listen though the song frame by frame and analyze the register content. You might find it useful. At the github page you can see what keys to push in order to study the SID.
Just drop a sid on the exe, slap space and enjoy :) really interesting I think.
Can this tool be added CSDb too? (despite the lack of a crack-intro slapped on it :) :P).
I should be helpful here so I uploaded it myself:
SID Monitor
Enjoy! |
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DeMOSic
Registered: Aug 2021
Posts: 126 |
Quote: I would like to see someone create a diskpack with only SNG files of all the SID files made in Goattracker out there. A new GP release? :)
I guess those composers that put lots of efforts in sid instrumentation fear this tool a lot more than I do. That said, I already previous done some SID dumps of the songs I wanted to investigate. This tool is therefore really nothing new under the sun, - it only comes with a much more preferred output-format of a SNG file (making it friendly for everyone to use) rather than textfile dumps and post scripts cleaning things up etc.
Cheers Magnar
I am actually working on a collection of sid files converted to sng! Its not finished so if anyone is interested PM me and i will send it to you! I might release it to csdb after i convert 5-15 more tunes |
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DeMOSic
Registered: Aug 2021
Posts: 126 |
Quote: I am actually working on a collection of sid files converted to sng! Its not finished so if anyone is interested PM me and i will send it to you! I might release it to csdb after i convert 5-15 more tunes
i have made it! |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: i have made it!
Probably a bad idea, dude. |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989 |
Quote: Probably a bad idea, dude.
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 833 |
Just to remind anyone who may have similar ideas...
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Submitted by That8BitChiptuneGuy on 12 November 2021
thanks so much hedning! absolutely didnt wanna keep this release here
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Submitted by hedning on 12 November 2021
Deleting this entry in 3…2…1…
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Submitted by That8BitChiptuneGuy on 12 November 2021
@Mibri i did check but i didnt care at the time for some reason
Also i didnt check whole modules so still a Good point
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Submitted by That8BitChiptuneGuy on 12 November 2021
I dont know how but i sent the same message twice. Can a mod delete one of em?
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Submitted by That8BitChiptuneGuy on 12 November 2021
I made This as a fun project and it turned out shit. Sorry to everyone who i ripped a sid from. I thought it was gonna be helpful but it wasnt.
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Submitted by That8BitChiptuneGuy on 12 November 2021
I made This as a fun project and it turned out shit. Sorry to everyone who i ripped a sid from. I thought it was gonna be helpful but it wasnt.
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Submitted by Flotsam on 12 November 2021
Checked out if it has any of my songs and got a good laugh seeing that it has Wiskarin_Hautatanssi.sid which was too shitty to release under my own name. :D
This probably wasn't a good idea, you might want to redirect your time and energy at creating new instead of spreading broken versions of old stuff.
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Submitted by Jammer on 12 November 2021
What a lovely, big piece of unnecessary work <3
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Submitted by Linus on 12 November 2021
Dude ... if you have the balls to release .sng files without permissions from the authors at least check if they actually work. The ones I checked (mostly my own) are indeed broken. Thanks for nothing.
Also ... what Ian Coog said.
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Submitted by iAN CooG on 12 November 2021
mibri: obviously not, as I said, it's a 0 effort pack, which shouldn't be even allowed as an entry here.
It's like taking some random prgs, batch process them with a disassembler and making a disassembly pack of random executables. I have absolutely no idea how one can think this can be valuable as a release.
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Submitted by Mibri on 12 November 2021
hedning, my Drama Dolphin shall remain firmly in the Drama Aquarium! Buuuuuut...
The wavetable data is very clearly wrong/broken in the following SNG files: City Noises (early version), Even Uneven, Funky Bravah, I Dug Some Graves You'll Never Find, Keygen Music, Nameless Traveller, Permadeath, Persona Non Grata, SID on Fire, Stomp, Teh Disco, Thir(s)ty, Urban Canyon Cruising, and maybe a few more, I stopped looking. That's quite a lot of buggy files! I have to wonder if the maker of the pack checked the files before creating this release...?
I make this comment chiefly because the sid2sng tool's developer may wish to consider fixing whatever's causing this wavetable data issue.
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Submitted by iAN CooG on 12 November 2021
Just stop doing this. Anyone can run sid2sng themselves on any gt tune if they want, no need to make these kind of 0 effort packs.
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Submitted by That8BitChiptuneGuy on 12 November 2021
@Conrad im sorry. the next update i make i will try to get permission fron all the people who i ripped sngs from (if they have a csdb or discord so i can ask for permission).
and im p sure i never did shitty worktunes.
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Submitted by Conrad on 12 November 2021
I'll let you off since you are new here, but in future... ask for permission first, especially if it shitty worktunes. /sigh
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Submitted by Flex on 12 November 2021
What hedning said.
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Submitted by Mr. SID on 11 November 2021
Maybe this should be sold as a NFT? :)
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Submitted by hedning on 11 November 2021
I don't know about you, but I think this release is a really bad idea. The tool itself is a cool thing, but this? Naah. I hope you have some blessing from the authors spreading more or less doubtful sng-files of their songs. They should have stayed on your harddrive. Better prepare for the Drama Dolphin.
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Submitted by Higgie on 11 November 2021
Hi! I haven't had a look what's in the zip-archive. But I think this might be better filed under another release type. A C64 music collection from my understanding should be able to run on a c64.
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Submitted by That8BitChiptuneGuy on 11 November 2021
For anyone whos interested in checking out their favourite sid musicians sng files either for learning gt or checking out some sng files!
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 444 |
Quoting ConradJust to remind anyone who may have similar ideas...
Hehe, nice read ... Thanx for preserving. It seems I missed the show :-) |
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DeMOSic
Registered: Aug 2021
Posts: 126 |
sorry for making the pack. I dont want to deal with being the guy who made the shitty no life sng pack. |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 444 |
Quoting That8BitChiptuneGuysorry for making the pack. I dont want to deal with being the guy who made the shitty no life sng pack.
Don't be too hard on yourself. It was a stupid idea. Entry got deleted. People will go on. Complaining about "shitty no life sng packs" is also kind of "no life" XD
But keep in mind for next time: noone needs any "releases" that can be produced by simply writing a shell script / batch file themselves. |
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DeMOSic
Registered: Aug 2021
Posts: 126 |
Quote: Quoting That8BitChiptuneGuysorry for making the pack. I dont want to deal with being the guy who made the shitty no life sng pack.
Don't be too hard on yourself. It was a stupid idea. Entry got deleted. People will go on. Complaining about "shitty no life sng packs" is also kind of "no life" XD
But keep in mind for next time: noone needs any "releases" that can be produced by simply writing a shell script / batch file themselves.
being hard on myself is a thing i cannot control that much. i must let out the anger of it
true that noone needs a sid2sng pack. i just thought it was gonna be helpful not realizing it was a shit idea.
well anyways back to making another song |
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ws
Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 228 |
Quoting spider-jBut keep in mind for next time: noone needs any "releases" that can be produced by simply writing a shell script / batch file themselves.
Excuse my stepping in here, but... before this "pack-mishap" happened, i actually had a quite longish chat with That8BitChiptuneGuy. And i wrote a very detailed, noob-friendly explanation of certain pitfalls about releasing stuff on CSDb to him. It was on a certain discord server for a certain forthcoming "transcoding" software... so... the steep part of the learing curve still seems to be ahead, as i personally dare to suspect. |
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DeMOSic
Registered: Aug 2021
Posts: 126 |
Quote: Quoting spider-jBut keep in mind for next time: noone needs any "releases" that can be produced by simply writing a shell script / batch file themselves.
Excuse my stepping in here, but... before this "pack-mishap" happened, i actually had a quite longish chat with That8BitChiptuneGuy. And i wrote a very detailed, noob-friendly explanation of certain pitfalls about releasing stuff on CSDb to him. It was on a certain discord server for a certain forthcoming "transcoding" software... so... the steep part of the learing curve still seems to be ahead, as i personally dare to suspect.
i joined csdb a few months ago so still gotta to to the steep learning curve |
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Adam
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 321 |
Quoting Mibrihedning, my Drama Dolphin shall remain firmly in the Drama Aquarium! Buuuuuut...
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2bt
Registered: Jun 2021
Posts: 9 |
What do you guys think about a browser based sid2sng? This way you Windows folks won't have to suffer though the hassle of building (but I will have to suffer a bit more instead). |
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Adam
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 321 |
Quoting 2btWhat do you guys think about a browser based sid2sng?
seems like overkill for a tiny application. just compile a windows exe and upload it here to csdb, along with link to source in the release. :) |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 444 |
Yeah, what Adam said. I'm no "Windows folks", but if needed I can offer my cross-compile services :-) |
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ws
Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 228 |
Quote:What do you guys think about a browser based sid2sng?
browser version very welcome! every conversion attempt result must automatically be posted as a rls on csdb pls ;-) must be one-click tho'. in the meanwhile i'll prepare the tik-tok announcement video. |
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2bt
Registered: Jun 2021
Posts: 9 |
Don't get me wrong. I really hate the browser as a platform. But it's what everyone seems to be doing these days. It's almost a miracle there's no tracker for the browser yet. |
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ws
Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 228 |
Quoting 2bt no tracker for the browser yet
(echo intensifies)
https://www.stef.be/bassoontracker/
... i mean.. there even is a js of winamp with milkdrop.
https://webamp.org/ |
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DeMOSic
Registered: Aug 2021
Posts: 126 |
Quote: What do you guys think about a browser based sid2sng? This way you Windows folks won't have to suffer though the hassle of building (but I will have to suffer a bit more instead).
im interested in it! |
