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goto80
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 138 |
timeline of SID achievements
I'm looking for a timeline of SID achievements. Does this exist? A list of important software (trackers and non-trackers, midi-sequencers and midi-slaves, sample-players and "drum machines", generatives, remix-tools, etc) and SID-tricks (playing digi-stuff, multispeed, hardrestart, etc). Who, where, when, how, why. I think a timeline over these things would be important to put together, if it doesn't already exist.
(I work on a timeline of chip music in general here: chipflip.wordpress.com/timeline. It is far from finished, of course. Suggestions are very welcome)
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1153 |
Rob Hubbard used hard restart, although more primitive (very hard), already in 1985 in tunes like Commando. |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1568 |
Quote: first use of multispeed would fit here too, only i don't know neither who or when :/
Wasn't that Anthony Crowther with his Zig Zag tune? |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289 |
Quote: Wasn't that Anthony Crowther with his Zig Zag tune?
absolutely nope - michael winterberg did some in 1986 but i don't know which tune was his first :| |
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Cresh
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354 |
What concerns multispeed:
http://groups.google.pl/group/comp.sys.cbm/browse_thread/thread..
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1568 |
Quote: What concerns multispeed:
http://groups.google.pl/group/comp.sys.cbm/browse_thread/thread..
Well, Jammer could be true about Michael Winterberg.
I remember a thread (or was it on IRC) about Winterberg and his custom-made replay-routines per tune which had the possibility to do double/multi speed per instrument (afaik).
Most Michael Winterberg tunes were made around 85,86...(also afaik)
We only need an scener with autism to dissect the players to confirm the dates ;-)
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627 |
The trick by Soundemon in his tune in "Pico", where the noise waveform is resetted and restarted periodically to create new sounds, should maybe be mentioned too.
Regarding multispeed... To me that doesn't really feel like an invention of something qualitatively new. More like a difference in degree. Nevertheless, talk about "multispeed" is of course common, and maybe that in itself justifies the inclusion of that stuff in the timeline too. |
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Hate Bush
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 452 |
@Frantic: multispeed is the most valuable sid invention ever to me, because it allowed a certain improvement in soundprogramming, by increasing the 'sound resolution'. ain't that worth mentioning? |
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tlr
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1702 |
Quote: @Frantic: multispeed is the most valuable sid invention ever to me, because it allowed a certain improvement in soundprogramming, by increasing the 'sound resolution'. ain't that worth mentioning?
It may be hard to find who was first though.
There are many early songs running on timer IRQ instead of raster interrupt.
Some of those are probably more than 1x speed.
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goto80
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 138 |
@Rambones: That's a great start! What are the names of these Banana-releases with sampled music? And how do you mean that they play music, compared to Rhythm King? That the pitch of the samples are changed?
Regarding multispeed - Frantik is technically right that it's only a quantitative difference. Still, it is relevant to mention if you want to list important developments for music. But then, since its a relative term, the origin of it is not an objective fact. But so far, the suggestion is 1986 with Winterberg and Galway. But..
@tlr: do you have any examples of such early songs? |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
No, I guess he means that there are the three sid voices with 3 digi channels together rather than playing digi only. |
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